What of nobody standing up for the children lost to miscarriages and the infertility issues from Trump's beautiful vaccine? Surely those matter too, yet none on the 'right' are saying a damn thing
Psalm 139 changed my life. Spiritual blindness is the only answer i've ever been able to fathom as to how people won't automatically consider abortion murder. As Horace indicated, we have laws for that. But i'm loathe to give Evil such an easy rationale. The vast majority of abortion decisions are just lifestyle choices; they may as well just sacrifice their babies to Moloch. It's the same thing: the world and its enticements were more important than their children.
Indeed, the pro-infanticide crowd cloaked their barbarity in emotional rhetoric for so long but the mask has certainly come off after Roe. Personal convenience was always the altar they were willing to sacrifice their children upon.
Excellent article, I couldn't agree more. However, as it relates to voting, I am torn between two options: voting for Trump, or not voting/write-in. I have heard many Christian arguments for and against voting for Trump. My main concerns are: if I don't vote, I am allowing a greater evil in Kamala Harris to go unchecked? Voting is rigged and fake, but it is the only option we have as Americans to have a "say" in the matter besides praying and hoping for the best. There are only 2 options. Should we refrain from voting if we are given the choice of the lesser of two evils? Trump is pro-abortion, Kamala is pro-trans-ing the kids and pro late- and after birth abortion - more children will be maimed and will die if she is "elected". Trump is likely going to lead us needlessly into WW3 in support of Israel, but so will Kamala, but I believe Trump would only draft my sons, Kamala would draft my sons and my daughters - if it came to that. Trump will likely attempt to stem the tide of migrants into America and begin deportations, but the migrant flow would likely increase under Kamala. Migrants are a direct threat to our families' safety. In every scenario a Kamala presidency would be a worse blight on our country and my family and my neighbor's family. Are we not responsible in some way for what we choose, even if it's a false choice? Can a Christian hope for Trump and pray for Trump to get elected, but choose not to vote for Trump because he is evil too? That seems an unwise strategy. So what to do? Election is coming up quickly
I'll be going more in depth on this subject before election day but a lot of my thoughts echo Visaya's on the matter.
For me, this issue is a non-negotiable line in the sand and we can't hope for any endeavor to be blessed when it is founded upon such a deep compromise. JD is right about this: if a man will bend on defending the weak there is nothing he won't bend on. It would be one thing if Trump was neutral in this fight, but he isn't: he has actively opposed, politically and rhetorically, even the half-measures aimed at ending this abomination in Florida.
This is what the puppet masters do, give you two bad choices so that either one advances their agenda. I do not see Trump changing the direction of this train, merely slowing it down. They have successfully made Kamala so cringe that people will rush out and vote Trump harder than ever. I don't expect a President to necessarily be a Christian, its a big ask in a world with so few actual Christians. But I do at least expect him to advance the cause of freedom, and i'm still scratching my head wondering if Trump can accomplish anything toward that end. If I were able to vote in this election (personal rule about only voting in-person), I would vote for Trump, using the rationale that it buys us more time to organize a Convention of States. But I would have no illusions about his little-C 'christianity'.
You're not wrong. Except about DNA of course - that's probably nonsense - made up by freemasons and blessed into orthodoxy by newspapers - then again that is what "The Science" is, so perhaps that is what you meant.
Still I wonder sometimes if simply declaring abortion to be muder and punishable as such is the right approach. Can or should one simply impose by force Christian values on a people who does not share them - no matter who is right and who wrong?
I am very limited in my understanding of the bible, but had sort of arrived at the impression (very possibly incorrectly) that Christ wanted us to live as Christians ourselves - apart if necessary - leading by example but not holding others accountable unless they too chose to become Christians.
Obviously abortion is different to other evil laws which people willingly adopt for themselves because the baby is not consulted, entirely innocent and entirely a victim and therefore perhaps we are obliged to step in and prevent its murder.
But even if we are supposed to intervene I do not see how we can do so successfully without first peacefully persuading people of the correctness of our position. Simply telling millions of people who sincerely believe they are doing nothing wrong that they are murderers, and punishing them as such, just doesn't seem likely to produce an all around great outcome.
I think we are in a fundamentally different position than first century Christians and one to one parallel's are difficult to draw.
That said, we already have laws against murder and there is no logical, ethical, moral, or Scriptural reason why it shouldn't be treated the same for the unborn. We have laws in most states where when a child is killed in the process of a crime that murder is treated as such. But if that same mom went into an abortion clinic or ordered some pills online and murdered her child of her own volition, suddenly it's not murder and it's a "choice." If unborn children are a human life worthy of value, something Scripture affirms in no uncertain terms, then they are worthy of the same defense we would give their born neighbor.
This is in many ways an in house debate and the state of our culture is a direct reflection of the failures of the Church, failures which must be called out: "judgment must begin at the house of God” (1 Peter 4:17) Ostensibly, our culture is based on Christian values and for my state, some 70% of the population nominally identifies as "Christians." The fact that it is even in question whether this amendment will pass is a testament to how shallow a faith that actually is.
Scripture is clear: we are to establish justice first and foremost, especially where innocent life is being trampled. Micah 6:8 tells us the Lord requires us to "do justly," and in Jeremiah 22:3, God says, "Execute ye judgment and righteousness, and deliver the spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor." Think also of Psalm 82:3-4: "Defend the poor and fatherless... rid them out of the hand of the wicked." Proverbs 21:3 tells us to "do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the Lord than sacrifice.”
I certainly 100% agree that there is "no ethical, moral, or Scriptural reason why it shouldn't be treated the same for the unborn."
When it comes to scripture I am no match to you, but are "Forgive them father for they know not what they do", and "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone" not also relevant here?
Where I am unconvinced (and I deliberately use that word instead of disagree) is when I think about
(a) Christ's own example. He sought to preach and persuade sinners - to turn them toward a better path, not to impose punishment upon them.
(b) The consequence of imposing punishment on very large numbers of people who do not believe they are doing anything wrong, despite how incorrect that belief is. Note however that I am firmly opposed to consequentialism in principle so understand that this a concern rather than a valid argument per se.
Is it possible that we are indeed charged with rescuing the children by preventing abortion by peaceful means, but not necessarily with punishing (with death sentences or long imprisonment) people as murderers who do not understand that they they are committing murder?
As an example - if a Christian missionary landed on Borneo a couple of hundred years ago and encountered cannibals - should he start executing every last one of them since they are guilty of murder (and other sins), or should he preach and show them the error of their ways without attempting to punish them? I think - by your logic - he should arrive with a guillotine in his baggage...- no?
You raise fair points, but what I think the key distinction that needs to be made is what should be done by the state and what impetus do we have as individuals. The job of a missionary is different than that of a judge or ruler and do call for different approaches. Likewise, a Christian nation failing to uphold a Biblical standard of justice is a far different circumstance than a pagan tribe in the jungles.
Ostensibly, we live in a country that claims to be Christian and bases its laws upon that, to some extent. While exceedingly misunderstood, Romans 13 is nevertheless clear that the state is empowered with the sword to punish evildoers. This is a righteous thing and they are equated to deacons or ministers in this duty. While you or I may not consider such things merciful or loving in the traditional sense, I do believe punishing evil in this manner is ultimately a loving act. It not only lets the victim know the seriousness with which society views their plight, but it also serves as a warning that dissuades others from pursuing such a course.
Specifically in this case I believe the people in favor of abortion are almost universally declared atheists or pagans (wicca / new age or other related cult), with the exception of a handful of politicians who do claim to be Christians while backing abortion (if you wish to punish these individuals for murder - go ahead; be my guest!).
I would say we are a nation with a substantial Christian population living alongside a substantial non-Christian population in an entirely and avowedly secular state.
I think we ceased to be a Christian nation at the moment we adopted the principle of the separation of church and state. I would say this was a terrible mistake except that I very much doubt it was a mistake at all.
Spot on Scipio. I literally covered this on my podcast today... Cal Zastro, a fellow brother in Christ, was recently sentenced to 6 months in federal prison because of the FACE Act. Cal participated in a sit-in/rescue at Carafem Health Center in Mount Juliet, Tennessee. They read from their bibles, sang hymns, and in some cases blocked access to some of the doors. When a police officer came to remove them, they peacefully complied and left. That wasn't enough for these Moloch worshippers.
Zastrow, considered one of the organizers, faced eleven years in prison for his part, but was ultimately sentenced to six months in federal prison and three years of supervised release. It is our duty to do what Cal did, and peacefully share the love of Jesus with those running towards death.
Read the Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrates, inspired by a guy fighting for the unborn lives. His story is inspiring. I am reading it chapter by chapter in my podcast.
Impeccable morality penned with elegant impact-only by Scipio Eruditus:
"Let us strip away the pretense, rhetoric, and the false piety that strangles the “pro-life” movement in the noose of pragmatism. What is pragmatism but compromise under a polished guise? And what, I ask, is more repugnant than to parley with those who decree slaughter, whose very legislation writes death warrants for the unborn — albeit, less so? Pragmatism within the ranks of those who claim to champion life has secured only one thing: the solidifying of unjust laws, the searing of consciences, and a willing surrender to those who despise truth and righteousness. How easily do they bow to Man’s reason, like sheep willingly grazing upon poisoned grass!"
What of nobody standing up for the children lost to miscarriages and the infertility issues from Trump's beautiful vaccine? Surely those matter too, yet none on the 'right' are saying a damn thing
A great piece Scipio, Factual and to the point. no wiggle room for those who try to affirm murder in any capacity.
Well done, a presentation that needs to be heard & presented!
Psalm 139 changed my life. Spiritual blindness is the only answer i've ever been able to fathom as to how people won't automatically consider abortion murder. As Horace indicated, we have laws for that. But i'm loathe to give Evil such an easy rationale. The vast majority of abortion decisions are just lifestyle choices; they may as well just sacrifice their babies to Moloch. It's the same thing: the world and its enticements were more important than their children.
Indeed, the pro-infanticide crowd cloaked their barbarity in emotional rhetoric for so long but the mask has certainly come off after Roe. Personal convenience was always the altar they were willing to sacrifice their children upon.
Excellent article, I couldn't agree more. However, as it relates to voting, I am torn between two options: voting for Trump, or not voting/write-in. I have heard many Christian arguments for and against voting for Trump. My main concerns are: if I don't vote, I am allowing a greater evil in Kamala Harris to go unchecked? Voting is rigged and fake, but it is the only option we have as Americans to have a "say" in the matter besides praying and hoping for the best. There are only 2 options. Should we refrain from voting if we are given the choice of the lesser of two evils? Trump is pro-abortion, Kamala is pro-trans-ing the kids and pro late- and after birth abortion - more children will be maimed and will die if she is "elected". Trump is likely going to lead us needlessly into WW3 in support of Israel, but so will Kamala, but I believe Trump would only draft my sons, Kamala would draft my sons and my daughters - if it came to that. Trump will likely attempt to stem the tide of migrants into America and begin deportations, but the migrant flow would likely increase under Kamala. Migrants are a direct threat to our families' safety. In every scenario a Kamala presidency would be a worse blight on our country and my family and my neighbor's family. Are we not responsible in some way for what we choose, even if it's a false choice? Can a Christian hope for Trump and pray for Trump to get elected, but choose not to vote for Trump because he is evil too? That seems an unwise strategy. So what to do? Election is coming up quickly
I'll be going more in depth on this subject before election day but a lot of my thoughts echo Visaya's on the matter.
For me, this issue is a non-negotiable line in the sand and we can't hope for any endeavor to be blessed when it is founded upon such a deep compromise. JD is right about this: if a man will bend on defending the weak there is nothing he won't bend on. It would be one thing if Trump was neutral in this fight, but he isn't: he has actively opposed, politically and rhetorically, even the half-measures aimed at ending this abomination in Florida.
This is what the puppet masters do, give you two bad choices so that either one advances their agenda. I do not see Trump changing the direction of this train, merely slowing it down. They have successfully made Kamala so cringe that people will rush out and vote Trump harder than ever. I don't expect a President to necessarily be a Christian, its a big ask in a world with so few actual Christians. But I do at least expect him to advance the cause of freedom, and i'm still scratching my head wondering if Trump can accomplish anything toward that end. If I were able to vote in this election (personal rule about only voting in-person), I would vote for Trump, using the rationale that it buys us more time to organize a Convention of States. But I would have no illusions about his little-C 'christianity'.
You're not wrong. Except about DNA of course - that's probably nonsense - made up by freemasons and blessed into orthodoxy by newspapers - then again that is what "The Science" is, so perhaps that is what you meant.
Still I wonder sometimes if simply declaring abortion to be muder and punishable as such is the right approach. Can or should one simply impose by force Christian values on a people who does not share them - no matter who is right and who wrong?
I am very limited in my understanding of the bible, but had sort of arrived at the impression (very possibly incorrectly) that Christ wanted us to live as Christians ourselves - apart if necessary - leading by example but not holding others accountable unless they too chose to become Christians.
Obviously abortion is different to other evil laws which people willingly adopt for themselves because the baby is not consulted, entirely innocent and entirely a victim and therefore perhaps we are obliged to step in and prevent its murder.
But even if we are supposed to intervene I do not see how we can do so successfully without first peacefully persuading people of the correctness of our position. Simply telling millions of people who sincerely believe they are doing nothing wrong that they are murderers, and punishing them as such, just doesn't seem likely to produce an all around great outcome.
I think we are in a fundamentally different position than first century Christians and one to one parallel's are difficult to draw.
That said, we already have laws against murder and there is no logical, ethical, moral, or Scriptural reason why it shouldn't be treated the same for the unborn. We have laws in most states where when a child is killed in the process of a crime that murder is treated as such. But if that same mom went into an abortion clinic or ordered some pills online and murdered her child of her own volition, suddenly it's not murder and it's a "choice." If unborn children are a human life worthy of value, something Scripture affirms in no uncertain terms, then they are worthy of the same defense we would give their born neighbor.
This is in many ways an in house debate and the state of our culture is a direct reflection of the failures of the Church, failures which must be called out: "judgment must begin at the house of God” (1 Peter 4:17) Ostensibly, our culture is based on Christian values and for my state, some 70% of the population nominally identifies as "Christians." The fact that it is even in question whether this amendment will pass is a testament to how shallow a faith that actually is.
Scripture is clear: we are to establish justice first and foremost, especially where innocent life is being trampled. Micah 6:8 tells us the Lord requires us to "do justly," and in Jeremiah 22:3, God says, "Execute ye judgment and righteousness, and deliver the spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor." Think also of Psalm 82:3-4: "Defend the poor and fatherless... rid them out of the hand of the wicked." Proverbs 21:3 tells us to "do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the Lord than sacrifice.”
We must do rightly, the results are up to Him.
I certainly 100% agree that there is "no ethical, moral, or Scriptural reason why it shouldn't be treated the same for the unborn."
When it comes to scripture I am no match to you, but are "Forgive them father for they know not what they do", and "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone" not also relevant here?
Where I am unconvinced (and I deliberately use that word instead of disagree) is when I think about
(a) Christ's own example. He sought to preach and persuade sinners - to turn them toward a better path, not to impose punishment upon them.
(b) The consequence of imposing punishment on very large numbers of people who do not believe they are doing anything wrong, despite how incorrect that belief is. Note however that I am firmly opposed to consequentialism in principle so understand that this a concern rather than a valid argument per se.
Is it possible that we are indeed charged with rescuing the children by preventing abortion by peaceful means, but not necessarily with punishing (with death sentences or long imprisonment) people as murderers who do not understand that they they are committing murder?
As an example - if a Christian missionary landed on Borneo a couple of hundred years ago and encountered cannibals - should he start executing every last one of them since they are guilty of murder (and other sins), or should he preach and show them the error of their ways without attempting to punish them? I think - by your logic - he should arrive with a guillotine in his baggage...- no?
You raise fair points, but what I think the key distinction that needs to be made is what should be done by the state and what impetus do we have as individuals. The job of a missionary is different than that of a judge or ruler and do call for different approaches. Likewise, a Christian nation failing to uphold a Biblical standard of justice is a far different circumstance than a pagan tribe in the jungles.
Ostensibly, we live in a country that claims to be Christian and bases its laws upon that, to some extent. While exceedingly misunderstood, Romans 13 is nevertheless clear that the state is empowered with the sword to punish evildoers. This is a righteous thing and they are equated to deacons or ministers in this duty. While you or I may not consider such things merciful or loving in the traditional sense, I do believe punishing evil in this manner is ultimately a loving act. It not only lets the victim know the seriousness with which society views their plight, but it also serves as a warning that dissuades others from pursuing such a course.
I don't think we are a Christian nation today.
Specifically in this case I believe the people in favor of abortion are almost universally declared atheists or pagans (wicca / new age or other related cult), with the exception of a handful of politicians who do claim to be Christians while backing abortion (if you wish to punish these individuals for murder - go ahead; be my guest!).
I would say we are a nation with a substantial Christian population living alongside a substantial non-Christian population in an entirely and avowedly secular state.
I think we ceased to be a Christian nation at the moment we adopted the principle of the separation of church and state. I would say this was a terrible mistake except that I very much doubt it was a mistake at all.
Keep up the great work my friend.
Spot on Scipio. I literally covered this on my podcast today... Cal Zastro, a fellow brother in Christ, was recently sentenced to 6 months in federal prison because of the FACE Act. Cal participated in a sit-in/rescue at Carafem Health Center in Mount Juliet, Tennessee. They read from their bibles, sang hymns, and in some cases blocked access to some of the doors. When a police officer came to remove them, they peacefully complied and left. That wasn't enough for these Moloch worshippers.
Zastrow, considered one of the organizers, faced eleven years in prison for his part, but was ultimately sentenced to six months in federal prison and three years of supervised release. It is our duty to do what Cal did, and peacefully share the love of Jesus with those running towards death.
Write Cal here:
Calvin Zastrow / Case # 26324-510
FCI Thomson
FEDERAL CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION
PO BOX 1002
THOMSON, IL 61285
God bless us all
It's repugnant what's being done to these people and how silent most churches are on the matter, thank you for all you do brother.
My scheduler will reach out to you soon here, we need to have another convo, it's been too long!
Looking forward to it my friend
Read the Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrates, inspired by a guy fighting for the unborn lives. His story is inspiring. I am reading it chapter by chapter in my podcast.
Great minds think alike.
Dude!! How is it that we BOTH just published articles today on abortion?! 🙌🏾💪🏾🔥❤️
I posted mine for my paying subscribers through but here’s the link if interested: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/how-the-word-abortion-hides-the-truth
Impeccable morality penned with elegant impact-only by Scipio Eruditus:
"Let us strip away the pretense, rhetoric, and the false piety that strangles the “pro-life” movement in the noose of pragmatism. What is pragmatism but compromise under a polished guise? And what, I ask, is more repugnant than to parley with those who decree slaughter, whose very legislation writes death warrants for the unborn — albeit, less so? Pragmatism within the ranks of those who claim to champion life has secured only one thing: the solidifying of unjust laws, the searing of consciences, and a willing surrender to those who despise truth and righteousness. How easily do they bow to Man’s reason, like sheep willingly grazing upon poisoned grass!"
Thanks PM, this topic certainly puts me in a mood.
Totally with you JD⚔️