Someone in the Constitution Party years ago said, "If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you're still voting for evil." That really stuck with me. I really agonized over the last 4 years about whom to vote for and I used that time to read a biography on Trump and assimilate info on him from different sources...that convinced me I couldn't in good conscience vote for him. But I also didn't want to abstain from my civic duty of voting. My solution was: a WRITE IN VOTE for one of the few politicians that I could support. I did write ins for congressional representative and for my state legislators as well. It's unfortunate that so many folks don't realize this is a viable option!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I finally exited the game this election. I will no longer pick the lesser of evils. I think you are correct... that is biblical and by choosing one it was like consenting to all the things they've shown us they are. I do not consent, agree, or want more of it. Anyway I got on line to research nanotech and how to help my patients. Read this article and realized how alone I feel in my thoughts and now miss I am going to maintain human relationships and stay out of online discussions has commented twice on this post. LOL. Thanks for making me feel less alone and even more confident in my decision.
The Operation Warp Speed (S.O.W) and then stayed away for others to do the mandate. The false prophet in Revelation 13? Very deceitful. But let’s blame no one because everything that needed to happen has happened so far. It is the will of the Father. Who are we to be against His will? Our Lord Jesus Christ is coming very soon (Tribulation 2020-2027).
Whatever happened to votes of no confidence, isn’t that supposed to be an option in any sorts of elections? Because I have no confidence in Trump, or the government.
Impeachment is not a no confidence motion, somehow, but Section 4 of the 25th Amendment provides a framework for a motion of no confidence against the President of the United States, intended to be used in the event of the President’s incapacitation, but vaguely worded to be applicable in any example of inability to perform the job. So there is an option.
Keep this in mind; I have a strong suspicion this is an avenue through which the satanic Stasi intend to strike next.
Look, they’ve already done everything else to Trump, do you think they’re going to stop now? He is the true Judas Goat. The more he suffers, like his Grand Guignol "assassination attempt," is the best kind of theatre, and simply Panem et Circenses for the MSM. Trump is here to do a job, and it is not to help America.
I refuse to be a part of their reality. I will not be controlled. Like the Who, "I Won't Be Fooled Again."
The funny thing is, Trump isn't actually less evil than Kamala - at ALL (I know you already pointed that out, including scripture). They're both equally Satanic, by every metric of understanding Luciferianism, Freemasonry, 3LA's, globalist puppetry, et al.
I am pro-choice but I recognise that who decides if and when life is aborted/ended is definitely not an easy subject. My question to those who are against abortion is: what do you advocate for the babies born who would have otherwise not been born that the mother (and others related) do not want to or feel they are unable to rear.
Last year it is estimated there were over 1,000,000 abortions in the US and 52,000 adoptions. Currently, there are 108,000 children in the foster system waiting for adoption.
I think we can all agree that the foster system has issues, but that’s a problem with the system, not the kids. If we can agree that a human life is valuable, then protecting it is the only moral choice before us — no matter what difficulties may lay on the other side of that birth. Rape and incest are horrific crimes, no doubt, but one crime should not be followed by another.
Christ showed us the way by sacrificing Himself for our sake. The real hope for these kids — and for all of us — can only ever begin with that.
But there are certain practicalities we need to consider when bringing children into the world. What would happen if say even a quarter of the abortions that occurred last year didn't happen and the children were born? That's 250,000 children that weren't wanted by their biological parents some of who would surely be given up for adoption ... but the system wouldn't be able to handle that many children.
1,000,000 abortions
52,000 adoptions
108,000 children in the foster system waiting for adoption
The maths doesn't add up for simply stopping abortion
You cannot consider the issue of abortion outside how society works. You cannot simply say abortion is morally wrong, it needs to stop. If you want to stop abortion how society works needs to change first. As I say, I'm pro-choice but I can understand those who aren't - at the same time when we take what we think is right and wrong out of the picture, banning abortion is simply impracticable - society couldn't manage that situation.
Actually, I can: abortion is morally wrong. It is the destruction of a unique, human life and this is scientifically indisputable. If there is no inherent value in a human life such that it should be defended or valued, why shouldn't we make similar allowances in the case of murder for the "good of society"? I honestly don't see the difference in your logic here and the logic behind the COVID genocide.
"when we take what we think is right and wrong out of the picture, banning abortion is simply impracticable - society couldn't manage that situation."
We shouldn't and I will not abandon the defense of the innocent simply because meeting its demands is challenging. A culture that can justify the destruction of its children on the grounds of personal inconvenience is a culture circling the drain. If society is so frail that it cannot shoulder the needs of the most innocent among us, then it's society that must change.
If murdering its offspring is the only solution to keep a civilization afloat, then let it be damned.
What consequences would that be? The *potential* for suffering? Even if the worst scenario you envisioned were to occur, it would still not justify killing innocent children. If you really believed suffering was so horrific that the only alternative to it is death, I very much doubt I would be talking to you right now.
The Biblical standard is the only objective moral standard, so yes, it is clear that ending the slaughter of the innocent is a moral imperative for a follower of Christ. Even if Scripture is not your standard, by every objective scientific criteria, it meets that qualification. This entire issue hinges on whether the preborn infant is a human being or not, which I assume you agree with since you intimated in your first post that "ending a life is not an easy subject." If it's not a human life, if it doesn't have value, why would that be a hard decision Petra? I think your conscience knows the truth of the matter.
A subjective standard based upon "practicality", such as you suggest here, is no standard at all. Bill Gates reckons his actions are for the "greater good" as well, and by your own standard, you can not say he is wrong to do so! It is precisely this twisted logic — that society can't afford to sustain all us useless eaters — that has driven this genocidal depopulation agenda.
casting a vote for the illegitimate candidates serves to legitimize their actions, policies.
I was stunned to read the endorsement of Trump (by someone here who has spent the last few years here on Statestack dissecting the dangers of the “vaccines” ) as the candidate to “prevent” WW3 … the “vaccines” WERE WW3 (or at least the initiation)…
Slandering - wow - apologize ? perhaps your desire to avoid the multiple issues and degeneration of western culture [ and abhorrent illegitimate current regime ] while doing nothing - sounds , looks like surrender , Trump/Vance [ despite many issues ] worse than harris/waltz ? Talk about knowingly supporting murder of the unborn .... your jump to the accusation of supporting Trump and/or the Republican party as a measure of being Christian [ illogical projected logic ] ..... but what demonrat policies do you support and please include even a modicum of scripture to support those policies specifically - I'll wait ...... and following with the weak [ has no basis in scripture ] of being an idolator - I wouldn't call it slander - just way off base ..... Thank you for responding , only through criticism do we learn to be more concise
Why do you think there is only ever 2 choices? having to automatically vote for the one you don't side with, is the reason why we are in this predicament. Not agreeing with either as they are both evil, says more to ones ability to think rationally and refraining from voting is speaking ones voice as well.
Again, where did I say do nothing? Where did I advocate for passivity? I specifically said to go out and vote against abortion, and in local elections, in this very essay. Cite the words I’ve actually written that you have a problem with or admit you are pulling these ideas out of your rectum.
“but what demonrat policies do you support and please include even a modicum of scripture to support those policies specifically”
This is your problem, you can only think inside the two party paradigm you have been provided. I support 0 democrat policies and would never try to defend such evil with Scripture. It’s you who are trying to defend supporting a man who openly advocates for abortion, so I’ll ask again since you dodged this question last time: prove your assertion from Scripture, not with poor grammar and bluster.
As for avoiding these issues, I’ll happily compare my battle scars with yours any day Robert.
How many abortion clinics have you protested? How many Pride parades have you shared the Gospel at? Where were you on J6? You have no idea who I am, or what I do, and because I question your political idol, you accuse me of being a do nothing surrender monkey? Laughable.
You even accused me of being a fake Christian, going so far as to wish that The LORD “will spew [me] out for [my] luke warm cowardice”. So yes, you slander a brother you know nothing about, one who is actively engaged in these cultural and spiritual battles.
I take attacks upon my character seriously and if you can’t admit you were wrong or deal truthfully with what I’ve written you will be banned. You don’t have to agree with me, but I will not tolerate your slanderous assertions about my character and faith.
None of the Above! "Nuff Said"! Do your part and stay home! Unless your State has Very Important Amendment votes on the Ballot that need your Moral Support!
insipid , toxic , same old passive so called Christian surrender monkey drivel .... despite a multitude of faults with Trump --- just why , why do you think doing nothing is going to change anything --the current illegitimate regime is straight from marxist , satanic hell ! you're not strong in your faith for running your keyboard or your mouth while tolerating the open debauchery of the current situation -- stay home and moan and whine as the innocents are slaughtered by your inaction ---and you'll be next ...The Lord Jesus Christ will spew you out for your luke warm cowardice ...Those who do nothing deserve everything they get ...with your "philosophy" , over the years , have we seen any improvement ? while so many "christians " hide in their self righteous comfort [ most are hoping for the rapture or other comfortable escape ] to avoid the massive Spiritual battle to confront the evil all around them ...
Nowhere did I advocate passivity, surrender, or anything of the sort. Quote me and prove your claims or stop slandering me and apologize.
Now correct me if I’m wrong, but your position is that the “Christian” thing to do is to knowingly vote for a man who openly supports child murder? If only you could cite a modicum of Scripture to back up this bold assertion instead of venting your spleen in my comment section.
Respectfully, if loyalty to Trump or the Republican Party is your barometer of what makes one a faithful Christian, you are an idolater.
This is excellent, the best thing I have ever read on this matter and why we should never compromise and vote for the lesser EVIL. This has been bubbling inside of me and you just put it into the *perfect* words. Thank you so so much, Scripio.
I’ve been emailing and talking to family and friends about this false selection and this post will be my last ditch effort to help them see. You lay it out perfectly how it’s compromising morally to vote for him (or any lesser evil), and exactly why it’s so very dangerous to do that.
@Underwhelmed, I am right there with you! Have tried and tried to share the truth about Trump with my family. Got the usual barrage that Scipio refutes in this article of "It's not right to not vote for someone!!". I will likely try and share this article with family as well, but have doubts that it will change any minds. The delusion is truly scary.
I told my husband that Trump is the one person that could literally ask the majority of conservative Christians to go "somewhere" (holding centers), tell them it's for their own good or to prevent a pandemic, and THEY WOULD ALL GO.
ConcernedCitizenofHeaven, thanks so much for your comment and I so agree with you. And agree that people would listen to Trump even for something like you say!! Yes, truly terrifying.
One of my friends and I always talk about this very possibly being the delusion that God sends because people did not love the truth. Trying to talk to people about who that man really is is like talking to people who are hypnotized and not even present in their mind, like a spell is cast over them. It’s very scary.
I sent this post to multiple people last week as one last effort before the “selection” and one of my friends said the first couple paragraphs were filled with vitriol and Jesus wouldn’t talk like that. I responded that IF we are being lied to on all fronts, which I believe we truly are, then this isn’t vitriol but rather boiling righteous anger. And that without that righteous anger we are in big trouble. And I argued that Jesus turned over the tables in the temple and called it a den of robbers so YES Jesus did react with intense passion and strong words as well.
At a certain point when we’ve delivered the message we needed to, we have to leave it in the hands of The Lord because we can’t force them to open their eyes and see. *Sigh*
I’m curious, what kind of info did you give to your family and how did you
@underwhelmed, I have been sharing pieces from Scipio and others who have commented about Trump's dark past. As well, there are just a couple of preachers who are passionately warning that judgment is about to fall upon America, and that no political figure is going to stop it. I have shared those sermons as well.
Beyond that, I have tried to make comments like "there is no political solution to a spiritual problem", and that a holy God HAS to judge America for her sins, else he would not be holy and just (and He would have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, since we have far surpassed their sin). I usually get an "Uh huh" or a semi blank stare. Some family members try to argue, but I don't engage in that.
Thank you so much for telling me what you’ve been doing and you make excellent points, ConcernedCitizenofHeaven.
You have to wonder how God can even stand to look upon all the sinfulness in this world and delay in His coming. Like you said we’ve far surpassed Sodom and Gomorrah. I think it’s only because He’s being extremely merciful and allowing time for more people to be saved.
(Time is racing so incredibly fast right now that I feel like we are living in Matthew 24:22 where the days are shortened.)
It’s always so refreshing to talk with people like you who DO see the truth. We are truly blessed that we are able to see it and to recognize the truth in our spirits. It’s so so obvious and once you see it, then everything in all directions confirms it….and that is why it feels like we’re banging our heads against a wall trying to tell people who refuse to see.
I literally thought there is NO WAY they could argue with this post of Scipio’s - it is perfectly laid out - and yet they found a way to argue. My mind is blown, but it’s yet another case of “shocked but not surprised.”
I’m continuing to pray hard too. I’ll say a prayer for all your people too, and please say a prayer for my family and friends also if you think of it.🙏🏻
I’m going to paste for you a document I wrote up that I tried sending out to my people to help them see who Trump is. I hope at the very least it planted a huge seed of distrust in what we’re presented.
Scipio Eruditis, I’m curious your thoughts on something.
This Trump deception is a huge one. As one of my friends put it - if you attack Trump, people react as if you’ve attacked them personally.
I recently sent to the people in my life who I think *could* see if they open their eyes, a document outlining who this man really is, complete with links to back it all up….and it was packed with info. They still refuse to see or even barely consider it. And yesterday I sent to almost all of them this post of yours as one last big effort, because if anything will wake them up to see the truth of it, I believe it’s this. Some didn’t respond but most hold their ground on their stance, so firmly clenching onto their indoctrination and throwing back at me arguments that barely make any sense. (It’s flat-out maddening, and scary.)
Do you have thoughts on whether you think this is, or is at least part of the strong delusion that God sends?
I can’t even explain how it feels (but I’m sure you certainly know) trying to talk with people about this man and about the voting deception in general and being met only with irritation, anger, and people digging their heels in so deep, as if they simply cannot and *will not* see the truth, as if they’re under a spell.
Indeed, it is certainly a maddening experience when the facts are so clear and yet they refuse to budge. It is hard for me not to see these obstinate and emotional reactions in particular as emblematic of deeper issues, very often spiritual in nature.
“There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.”
I completely agree and that’s what’s really scary to me. And you can’t force anyone to see the truth - that’s their own choice, no matter how much you love them and wish you could do it for them.
Thanks so much for responding to me and for taking a strong and holy stand against this evil.
This missive nails it for me! I don't really like anybody from new york. I watched donald's stupid show for 10 minutes and never watched again. I thought this guy is a DOUCHE! What kills me the most is all the money spent on TV...yup! just support the folks lying to us every minute of every day! The immoral federal reserve is the cause of ALL of this...the debauchery of the currency is the true evil...S
Election day is a sight to behold as one watches the masses join the frenzied screenplay unfolding around them. The ultimate in, "augmented reality audience participation". Thank you SE!
"Awake" is a term stolen by the right-wing culture war people, unfortunately. Republicans are really every bit as sleepy as lefties are; and *some* of them might actually wake up for real--like us--when Trump does another warp-speed, real-id, digital currency, or something else that makes their life objectively worse.
Right!! Or brings in firing squads and televised executions…. I was just saying to one of my friends that I believe a lot of them will still stay in the delusion and stick up for him for a long time regardless of what he does.
Someone in the Constitution Party years ago said, "If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you're still voting for evil." That really stuck with me. I really agonized over the last 4 years about whom to vote for and I used that time to read a biography on Trump and assimilate info on him from different sources...that convinced me I couldn't in good conscience vote for him. But I also didn't want to abstain from my civic duty of voting. My solution was: a WRITE IN VOTE for one of the few politicians that I could support. I did write ins for congressional representative and for my state legislators as well. It's unfortunate that so many folks don't realize this is a viable option!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I finally exited the game this election. I will no longer pick the lesser of evils. I think you are correct... that is biblical and by choosing one it was like consenting to all the things they've shown us they are. I do not consent, agree, or want more of it. Anyway I got on line to research nanotech and how to help my patients. Read this article and realized how alone I feel in my thoughts and now miss I am going to maintain human relationships and stay out of online discussions has commented twice on this post. LOL. Thanks for making me feel less alone and even more confident in my decision.
The Operation Warp Speed (S.O.W) and then stayed away for others to do the mandate. The false prophet in Revelation 13? Very deceitful. But let’s blame no one because everything that needed to happen has happened so far. It is the will of the Father. Who are we to be against His will? Our Lord Jesus Christ is coming very soon (Tribulation 2020-2027).
Whatever happened to votes of no confidence, isn’t that supposed to be an option in any sorts of elections? Because I have no confidence in Trump, or the government.
Impeachment is not a no confidence motion, somehow, but Section 4 of the 25th Amendment provides a framework for a motion of no confidence against the President of the United States, intended to be used in the event of the President’s incapacitation, but vaguely worded to be applicable in any example of inability to perform the job. So there is an option.
Keep this in mind; I have a strong suspicion this is an avenue through which the satanic Stasi intend to strike next.
Look, they’ve already done everything else to Trump, do you think they’re going to stop now? He is the true Judas Goat. The more he suffers, like his Grand Guignol "assassination attempt," is the best kind of theatre, and simply Panem et Circenses for the MSM. Trump is here to do a job, and it is not to help America.
I refuse to be a part of their reality. I will not be controlled. Like the Who, "I Won't Be Fooled Again."
The funny thing is, Trump isn't actually less evil than Kamala - at ALL (I know you already pointed that out, including scripture). They're both equally Satanic, by every metric of understanding Luciferianism, Freemasonry, 3LA's, globalist puppetry, et al.
Thanks again Scipio for covering this topic with the depth and breadth only you seemingly can do!
I am pro-choice but I recognise that who decides if and when life is aborted/ended is definitely not an easy subject. My question to those who are against abortion is: what do you advocate for the babies born who would have otherwise not been born that the mother (and others related) do not want to or feel they are unable to rear.
Last year it is estimated there were over 1,000,000 abortions in the US and 52,000 adoptions. Currently, there are 108,000 children in the foster system waiting for adoption.
I think we can all agree that the foster system has issues, but that’s a problem with the system, not the kids. If we can agree that a human life is valuable, then protecting it is the only moral choice before us — no matter what difficulties may lay on the other side of that birth. Rape and incest are horrific crimes, no doubt, but one crime should not be followed by another.
Christ showed us the way by sacrificing Himself for our sake. The real hope for these kids — and for all of us — can only ever begin with that.
But there are certain practicalities we need to consider when bringing children into the world. What would happen if say even a quarter of the abortions that occurred last year didn't happen and the children were born? That's 250,000 children that weren't wanted by their biological parents some of who would surely be given up for adoption ... but the system wouldn't be able to handle that many children.
1,000,000 abortions
52,000 adoptions
108,000 children in the foster system waiting for adoption
The maths doesn't add up for simply stopping abortion
You cannot consider the issue of abortion outside how society works. You cannot simply say abortion is morally wrong, it needs to stop. If you want to stop abortion how society works needs to change first. As I say, I'm pro-choice but I can understand those who aren't - at the same time when we take what we think is right and wrong out of the picture, banning abortion is simply impracticable - society couldn't manage that situation.
"You cannot simply say abortion is morally wrong"
Actually, I can: abortion is morally wrong. It is the destruction of a unique, human life and this is scientifically indisputable. If there is no inherent value in a human life such that it should be defended or valued, why shouldn't we make similar allowances in the case of murder for the "good of society"? I honestly don't see the difference in your logic here and the logic behind the COVID genocide.
"when we take what we think is right and wrong out of the picture, banning abortion is simply impracticable - society couldn't manage that situation."
We shouldn't and I will not abandon the defense of the innocent simply because meeting its demands is challenging. A culture that can justify the destruction of its children on the grounds of personal inconvenience is a culture circling the drain. If society is so frail that it cannot shoulder the needs of the most innocent among us, then it's society that must change.
If murdering its offspring is the only solution to keep a civilization afloat, then let it be damned.
You can say it is morally wrong, however, if you were to ban it right now would that be morally right considering the consequences?
If it were banned now what do you think the consequences would be?
What consequences would that be? The *potential* for suffering? Even if the worst scenario you envisioned were to occur, it would still not justify killing innocent children. If you really believed suffering was so horrific that the only alternative to it is death, I very much doubt I would be talking to you right now.
The Biblical standard is the only objective moral standard, so yes, it is clear that ending the slaughter of the innocent is a moral imperative for a follower of Christ. Even if Scripture is not your standard, by every objective scientific criteria, it meets that qualification. This entire issue hinges on whether the preborn infant is a human being or not, which I assume you agree with since you intimated in your first post that "ending a life is not an easy subject." If it's not a human life, if it doesn't have value, why would that be a hard decision Petra? I think your conscience knows the truth of the matter.
A subjective standard based upon "practicality", such as you suggest here, is no standard at all. Bill Gates reckons his actions are for the "greater good" as well, and by your own standard, you can not say he is wrong to do so! It is precisely this twisted logic — that society can't afford to sustain all us useless eaters — that has driven this genocidal depopulation agenda.
"Even if the worst scenario you envisioned were to occur ... "
Can you please actually state what you imagine as the worst scenario considering the following statistics if abortion were to be banned as of now:
1,000,000 abortions last year
52,000 adoptions
108,000 children in the foster system waiting for adoption
casting a vote for the illegitimate candidates serves to legitimize their actions, policies.
I was stunned to read the endorsement of Trump (by someone here who has spent the last few years here on Statestack dissecting the dangers of the “vaccines” ) as the candidate to “prevent” WW3 … the “vaccines” WERE WW3 (or at least the initiation)…
https://jessicar.substack.com/p/why-donald-trump-would-be-a-good?utm_medium=reader2
God help us.
Slandering - wow - apologize ? perhaps your desire to avoid the multiple issues and degeneration of western culture [ and abhorrent illegitimate current regime ] while doing nothing - sounds , looks like surrender , Trump/Vance [ despite many issues ] worse than harris/waltz ? Talk about knowingly supporting murder of the unborn .... your jump to the accusation of supporting Trump and/or the Republican party as a measure of being Christian [ illogical projected logic ] ..... but what demonrat policies do you support and please include even a modicum of scripture to support those policies specifically - I'll wait ...... and following with the weak [ has no basis in scripture ] of being an idolator - I wouldn't call it slander - just way off base ..... Thank you for responding , only through criticism do we learn to be more concise
Why do you think there is only ever 2 choices? having to automatically vote for the one you don't side with, is the reason why we are in this predicament. Not agreeing with either as they are both evil, says more to ones ability to think rationally and refraining from voting is speaking ones voice as well.
Again, where did I say do nothing? Where did I advocate for passivity? I specifically said to go out and vote against abortion, and in local elections, in this very essay. Cite the words I’ve actually written that you have a problem with or admit you are pulling these ideas out of your rectum.
“but what demonrat policies do you support and please include even a modicum of scripture to support those policies specifically”
This is your problem, you can only think inside the two party paradigm you have been provided. I support 0 democrat policies and would never try to defend such evil with Scripture. It’s you who are trying to defend supporting a man who openly advocates for abortion, so I’ll ask again since you dodged this question last time: prove your assertion from Scripture, not with poor grammar and bluster.
As for avoiding these issues, I’ll happily compare my battle scars with yours any day Robert.
How many abortion clinics have you protested? How many Pride parades have you shared the Gospel at? Where were you on J6? You have no idea who I am, or what I do, and because I question your political idol, you accuse me of being a do nothing surrender monkey? Laughable.
You even accused me of being a fake Christian, going so far as to wish that The LORD “will spew [me] out for [my] luke warm cowardice”. So yes, you slander a brother you know nothing about, one who is actively engaged in these cultural and spiritual battles.
I take attacks upon my character seriously and if you can’t admit you were wrong or deal truthfully with what I’ve written you will be banned. You don’t have to agree with me, but I will not tolerate your slanderous assertions about my character and faith.
And another grand slam homerun! I was about to comment, however there is nothing more to be said, other than I support you all the way Brother!
None of the Above! "Nuff Said"! Do your part and stay home! Unless your State has Very Important Amendment votes on the Ballot that need your Moral Support!
insipid , toxic , same old passive so called Christian surrender monkey drivel .... despite a multitude of faults with Trump --- just why , why do you think doing nothing is going to change anything --the current illegitimate regime is straight from marxist , satanic hell ! you're not strong in your faith for running your keyboard or your mouth while tolerating the open debauchery of the current situation -- stay home and moan and whine as the innocents are slaughtered by your inaction ---and you'll be next ...The Lord Jesus Christ will spew you out for your luke warm cowardice ...Those who do nothing deserve everything they get ...with your "philosophy" , over the years , have we seen any improvement ? while so many "christians " hide in their self righteous comfort [ most are hoping for the rapture or other comfortable escape ] to avoid the massive Spiritual battle to confront the evil all around them ...
Nowhere did I advocate passivity, surrender, or anything of the sort. Quote me and prove your claims or stop slandering me and apologize.
Now correct me if I’m wrong, but your position is that the “Christian” thing to do is to knowingly vote for a man who openly supports child murder? If only you could cite a modicum of Scripture to back up this bold assertion instead of venting your spleen in my comment section.
Respectfully, if loyalty to Trump or the Republican Party is your barometer of what makes one a faithful Christian, you are an idolater.
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This is excellent, the best thing I have ever read on this matter and why we should never compromise and vote for the lesser EVIL. This has been bubbling inside of me and you just put it into the *perfect* words. Thank you so so much, Scripio.
I’ve been emailing and talking to family and friends about this false selection and this post will be my last ditch effort to help them see. You lay it out perfectly how it’s compromising morally to vote for him (or any lesser evil), and exactly why it’s so very dangerous to do that.
This is🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥. (Holy Spirit fire)
THANK YOU.
@Underwhelmed, I am right there with you! Have tried and tried to share the truth about Trump with my family. Got the usual barrage that Scipio refutes in this article of "It's not right to not vote for someone!!". I will likely try and share this article with family as well, but have doubts that it will change any minds. The delusion is truly scary.
I told my husband that Trump is the one person that could literally ask the majority of conservative Christians to go "somewhere" (holding centers), tell them it's for their own good or to prevent a pandemic, and THEY WOULD ALL GO.
Truly terrifying.
ConcernedCitizenofHeaven, thanks so much for your comment and I so agree with you. And agree that people would listen to Trump even for something like you say!! Yes, truly terrifying.
One of my friends and I always talk about this very possibly being the delusion that God sends because people did not love the truth. Trying to talk to people about who that man really is is like talking to people who are hypnotized and not even present in their mind, like a spell is cast over them. It’s very scary.
I sent this post to multiple people last week as one last effort before the “selection” and one of my friends said the first couple paragraphs were filled with vitriol and Jesus wouldn’t talk like that. I responded that IF we are being lied to on all fronts, which I believe we truly are, then this isn’t vitriol but rather boiling righteous anger. And that without that righteous anger we are in big trouble. And I argued that Jesus turned over the tables in the temple and called it a den of robbers so YES Jesus did react with intense passion and strong words as well.
At a certain point when we’ve delivered the message we needed to, we have to leave it in the hands of The Lord because we can’t force them to open their eyes and see. *Sigh*
I’m curious, what kind of info did you give to your family and how did you
try to help them see?
@underwhelmed, I have been sharing pieces from Scipio and others who have commented about Trump's dark past. As well, there are just a couple of preachers who are passionately warning that judgment is about to fall upon America, and that no political figure is going to stop it. I have shared those sermons as well.
Beyond that, I have tried to make comments like "there is no political solution to a spiritual problem", and that a holy God HAS to judge America for her sins, else he would not be holy and just (and He would have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, since we have far surpassed their sin). I usually get an "Uh huh" or a semi blank stare. Some family members try to argue, but I don't engage in that.
Mostly I just continue to pray for them all!
Thank you so much for telling me what you’ve been doing and you make excellent points, ConcernedCitizenofHeaven.
You have to wonder how God can even stand to look upon all the sinfulness in this world and delay in His coming. Like you said we’ve far surpassed Sodom and Gomorrah. I think it’s only because He’s being extremely merciful and allowing time for more people to be saved.
(Time is racing so incredibly fast right now that I feel like we are living in Matthew 24:22 where the days are shortened.)
It’s always so refreshing to talk with people like you who DO see the truth. We are truly blessed that we are able to see it and to recognize the truth in our spirits. It’s so so obvious and once you see it, then everything in all directions confirms it….and that is why it feels like we’re banging our heads against a wall trying to tell people who refuse to see.
I literally thought there is NO WAY they could argue with this post of Scipio’s - it is perfectly laid out - and yet they found a way to argue. My mind is blown, but it’s yet another case of “shocked but not surprised.”
I’m continuing to pray hard too. I’ll say a prayer for all your people too, and please say a prayer for my family and friends also if you think of it.🙏🏻
I’m going to paste for you a document I wrote up that I tried sending out to my people to help them see who Trump is. I hope at the very least it planted a huge seed of distrust in what we’re presented.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/1QMXvclDiRpV2IyrcO9DjtcPOj3CQZbJG/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword
(3 of my friends helped me compile this write-up)
Thank you for reading!
Scipio Eruditis, I’m curious your thoughts on something.
This Trump deception is a huge one. As one of my friends put it - if you attack Trump, people react as if you’ve attacked them personally.
I recently sent to the people in my life who I think *could* see if they open their eyes, a document outlining who this man really is, complete with links to back it all up….and it was packed with info. They still refuse to see or even barely consider it. And yesterday I sent to almost all of them this post of yours as one last big effort, because if anything will wake them up to see the truth of it, I believe it’s this. Some didn’t respond but most hold their ground on their stance, so firmly clenching onto their indoctrination and throwing back at me arguments that barely make any sense. (It’s flat-out maddening, and scary.)
Do you have thoughts on whether you think this is, or is at least part of the strong delusion that God sends?
I can’t even explain how it feels (but I’m sure you certainly know) trying to talk with people about this man and about the voting deception in general and being met only with irritation, anger, and people digging their heels in so deep, as if they simply cannot and *will not* see the truth, as if they’re under a spell.
Indeed, it is certainly a maddening experience when the facts are so clear and yet they refuse to budge. It is hard for me not to see these obstinate and emotional reactions in particular as emblematic of deeper issues, very often spiritual in nature.
“There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.”
– Proverbs 14:12
I completely agree and that’s what’s really scary to me. And you can’t force anyone to see the truth - that’s their own choice, no matter how much you love them and wish you could do it for them.
Thanks so much for responding to me and for taking a strong and holy stand against this evil.
Excellent, what a tangled web we weave. Just about to drop a podcast on Israel, lol. That is when you find out who your friends are......
Good on ya brother, it’s most certainly amongst the most pressing issues we face.
It is connected to everything it seems.
This missive nails it for me! I don't really like anybody from new york. I watched donald's stupid show for 10 minutes and never watched again. I thought this guy is a DOUCHE! What kills me the most is all the money spent on TV...yup! just support the folks lying to us every minute of every day! The immoral federal reserve is the cause of ALL of this...the debauchery of the currency is the true evil...S
Thank-you for this! God help US!!
Reality TV is anything but real. Lol.
Election day is a sight to behold as one watches the masses join the frenzied screenplay unfolding around them. The ultimate in, "augmented reality audience participation". Thank you SE!
I have those Matrix-dwelling NPC's in my own family, living with me, which is pretty frustrating, lol.
Thank you PM, it is a marvel to see how quickly the “awake” go back to sleep during election season.
"Awake" is a term stolen by the right-wing culture war people, unfortunately. Republicans are really every bit as sleepy as lefties are; and *some* of them might actually wake up for real--like us--when Trump does another warp-speed, real-id, digital currency, or something else that makes their life objectively worse.
Right!! Or brings in firing squads and televised executions…. I was just saying to one of my friends that I believe a lot of them will still stay in the delusion and stick up for him for a long time regardless of what he does.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-death-penalty-firing-squad-executions-1234679447/
It is role playing at its finest....
Once again, an excellent and extremely pertinent essay.
Thank you 🙏
Agreed.