Well-argued essay, Scipio. Thank you for re-posting it now, on a day in which the entire MSM has devoted itself to promoting a "10/7 Memorial" and telling us that "anti-Semitism" is "at an all-time high" and "should scare us all." Like all of your essays, this one is disturbing and edifying at the same time, like all truth that is clearly spoken.
Hi, first mad respect for what you do and your boldness of character. Your work is waking them up no doubt. Trying to be short and concise as I can be you might be interested in a guy named Brandon J. Williams his YouTube is Brandon Joe Williams Law made fun and simple. I believe the work he's doing is absolutely essential to saving our country. I think you should definitely look at what he is doing. IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER HE USES LOTS OF 4 LETTER WORDS AND CRUDE (HILARIOUS) HUMOR LOOK PAST THIS AND AT HIS WORK AND WHAT HE IS ACCOMPLISHING. IT IS GAME CHANGING!
Thank you for another edifying read/listen. Be safe in this upcoming storm/hurricane. I’m not sure where you are exactly, just heard you say Florida. I’m in the panhandle of florida….L.A.-lower Alabama pretty much. Praying for safety of anyone who may be affected. Blessings in our Lord, Savior, and King, Jesus Christ. Amen 🙏💕
Are you really unaware that most Muzlms, HMAS, HZBOLLAH, IRAN, etc, as in PLO Charter's order for the 'ELIMINATION OF THE ZIONIST PRESENCE', have no intention of letting ANY Jews live in 'Palestine'?!.... 'From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free'!?........That they have attacked Israel virtually every day since 1948 when the modern state of Israel was set up, & the Arabs [not 'Philistines-Palestinians', at least ethnically!} were given or have taken c 85% of the ancient land of Israel?!l.........And that they have refused EVERY Peace Treaty since then, even when mistakenly given 'Land for Peace' by the Jews - only to immediately start attacking Israel from them?!...........That they already have a so-called 'Two State Solution' as when they were given the vast majority of the land in 1948 as an Arab State of Trans-Jordan'?!...........That God also gave Ishmael-Esau's descendants their own '12 Tribes, princes' & lands - but to the 'EAST OF THE JORDAN'?! [ Gen 17, Gen 21, Gen 25,]That, as the apostle Paul says, if God has cast the Jews off, then He will cast off us Christians, only grafted into their Olive tree of Israel, too?! ............That YHVH DOES NOT BREAK HIS MANY PROMISES via Abraham etc to give them the land forever- even if they disobey and He banishes them, as He promised and did, but that He will bring them back, anyway [Deut 28 etc]?!............ That if it depended on our good conduct, then everyone, both JEW & GENTILE in the 'ISRAEL OF GOD' Galatians 6[, would all be destroyed?!........... THAT He promised to turn His attention back to the Jews - 'when the fullness of the Gentiles has come in, so in that way, ALL ISRAEL [always only a 'REMNANT'] WILL BE SAVED:?! The 'Israel of God'........... As for all your so-called 'bloodletting', we can clearly see from the 6000 largely appalling yrs of Creation that God Himself has, and will, slaughter billions, incl. virtually everyone in the Flood, & some 2/3rds of the world at Armageddon & the 2nd Coming, and at the end of a literal Millennium, post-2nd Coming, HE destroys virtually everyone again?!........... And then punishes them and all the other deniers forever, as well! ....That it was God Himself who created the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil', and Satan, God Himself who 'subjected all the creation to suffering in pain' - ' IN HOPE' [Roms 8] ! ...IN Hope, presumably, that we would see that however bad it gets down here, all the persecution, hatred, martyrdom, beheading etc, promised Believers, all absolutely guaranteed and barely begun yet, in the modern West anyway - YHVH-YESHUA's own appalling, barely comprehensible suffering on the Cross-Tree for all our evil, sin & suffering, would cap all of that, and all that is just 'Rubbish 'anyway, as Paul says..... 'passing away, like the world and all its desires'........... And Good riddance too.... Just the political UN-WHO-WEF-Pharma-Gatesian-Meta-AI-VR 'Beast' & Interfaith 'Whore' 'to go NOW, with its Rev 13 No Buy-No Sell, Didgy-ID-'Mark' Vaxxport....??!! MARANATHA!
There are simply too many points to address properly here, but let me address the two which are most salient: whether Israel has been cast off, and whether there are any land promises still outstanding for ethnic/national Israel. I would point you towards my Wolves Within series and book if you are wanting a more in-depth, exegetical exploration of this topic: https://dfreality.substack.com/p/the-wolves-within
To that first point, Romans 11 does not suggest a future national conversion of ethnic Israel. It is essential to consider this chapter in the broader context of Paul's argument, which stretches from Romans 9 to 11. Paul clearly distinguishes between two Israels: "They are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children" (Romans 9:6-7). This defines who the "true Israel" is — the Israel of faith, those who trust in Christ. So when Paul says, "And so all Israel shall be saved" (Romans 11:26), it would truly be bizarre if he were referring to a future collective national salvation of ethnic Jews since he says mere verses before they must not persist in their unbelief in order to be grafted in (i.e. saved) (Romans 11:23).
The olive tree metaphor demonstrates this. Branches were broken off because of unbelief, and Gentiles were grafted in by faith. This is not about ethnicity but about belief. The salvation of Israel, in Paul’s argument, is spiritual, not genetic. The remnant of faithful Judeans, those who embrace Jesus as Messiah, are part of this salvation alongside believing Gentiles. So, in this sense, "all Israel" means the full number of the elect in Christ — both Judean and Gentile — who are saved by faith.
Regarding future land promises, Joshua 21:43-45 is explicit: "And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein... there failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass." The text could not be clearer — God has fulfilled His promise! The entirety of the land promised to Israel was given during Joshua’s conquest. There is no serious Scriptural basis for arguing that the land promises remain unfulfilled, especially in a literal, physical sense.
While there was a clear historical land grant to Abraham's descendants (those of faith, as Galatians 3 makes clear), it’s crucial to recognize that the New Testament elucidates our understanding of such promises. In Hebrews 11, we see that the patriarchs were "strangers and pilgrims on the earth," looking for a heavenly city, not merely an earthly territory (Hebrews 11:13-16). Thus, the fulfillment of God's promises to Abraham’s descendants is not ultimately about physical land on an Earth that will be destroyed; but about the Kingdom of God, one which is spiritual and eternal. This is a critical point in understanding the broader narrative of Scripture.
As for the covenant with Abraham, while it is described as "everlasting" (Genesis 17:7-8), it was never without conditions tied to faith and obedience. Even Abraham himself had to fulfill specific acts of obedience, such as leaving his homeland (Genesis 12:1-4) and instituting circumcision (Genesis 17:9-14), to maintain the covenant. Thus, God's promises always came with the expectation of faith and obedience — even for the patriarchs.
This pattern continues throughout ethnic Israel’s history. Deuteronomy 28 further elaborates on this conditional aspect, laying out not only the blessings for obedience but also the severe curses for disobedience. These curses include being driven from the land, being scattered among the nations, and experiencing every conceivable hardship (Deuteronomy 28:15-68). The Zionist state today, which is often viewed by some as a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy, is in abrogation of nearly all these covenantal conditions.
These curses have clearly come into effect, given ethnic Israel’s repeated history of exile and dispersion since 70 AD. Crucially, to fulfill the covenant, to truly obey the commandments of Moses, ethnic Israel HAS to accept Jesus as the Messiah (Duet. 18:18-19, Acts 3:22-23). And, as Jesus Himself said, "If ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me" (John 5:46).
This presents a significant issue for the modern Zionist state and those who claim it is a fulfillment of Biblical prophecies. It is not a nation that follows Christ, nor does it adhere to the faithfulness required under either the Old or New Covenant. To claim that the land promises remain valid without accepting Christ as the fulfillment of the Law and Prophets is a fundamental contradiction.
Simply put, there are no promises, spiritual or otherwise, outside of Christ (2 Corinthians 1:20).
THANKS Scipio, Yes I'm well aware of all that and 'spiritual Israel 'etc, and I don't think all of the present land of Israel or its very secular state will be 'saved' at the very physical Armageddon-2nd coming! .....BUT God also promised the wonderful two-part prophecy of Zech 12 to the physical inhabitants of Jerusalem at that time [not the 'Jerusalem above, our Mother'!]. in fact & when He will TWCE come, " And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."........ As John 19 says, the 'look on me whom they have pierced' was first fulfilled at the Cross, but they, or the world, did not mourn then! ...The rest will only happen at His 2nd Coming, as in Rev 1, when I personally expect many Jews in their extremis at the worlds armies attacking, and that much mentioned 'Remnant'- as by Paul in Roms 9-11 [!}] - will indeed also fulfil Matt 23 and say, 'Barush H'Bar B'Shem Adonai; - and be 'saved'......Everyone who calls on the Name of the Lord will be saved'......... And I'm well aware of not understanding all of the scriptures etc - or such paradoxes as 'Hyper Calvinisms' robotism & 'Free Will' etc - the Bible has both. It also has two Israels, if ultimately only one.... & both currently in rebellion. and largely unprepared for HIS Return!
Philip, that was a largely pointless reply. You obviously have a poor understanding of history and the Bible because of the heresy of dispensationalist doctrine. Even a cursory glance at the origins of dispensationalism will lead you to the truth. I was once in your camp (although that unorganized comment is hard to read) in that I too was brought up in protestant "boomerisms" of dispensationalism and Left Behind heresies. I humbly recommend that you do more research on this subject before you spout off unhinged nonsense, and do away with your false premises. Please understand, the Jews vs. Muslims is a psy-op strategy war game that the globalists (read: Satan and spiritual forces of wickedness in high places) are playing with the West and the Christian church, to implement a great delusion and turning away from the truth. Current Israel are not the Jews of the Abrahamic covenant. In fact, all those who profess Christ are now grafted in to the covenant as Jesus fulfilled the law perfectly and those who deny Jesus are cut off. Therefore, true Christians who accept Jesus would be known as Jews or Israelites under the Abrahamic covenant. As for those who call themselves Jews but are not (synagogue of Satan), it would be more appropriate to refer to them as "yews" since they practice Telmudic and Kabbalistic Judaism and deny Christ. They even claim to be descendants of Ashkenaz, not Shem (therefore are not semites, although God does not care about ethnicity - read Paul's letter to the Romans and the genealogy of Jesus), and have immigrated to "israel" as a result of the Rothschild bankers plans (https://archive.org/details/two-rothschilds-and-the-land-of-israel-by-simon-schama) and Masonic influence in WW1 and WW2, controlling all sides of the wars and are currently set on WW3 between the "jews" and the muslims, which has already begun. All of these plans were laid out by Albert Pike in the late 1800s. Scipio documents all of these things and more in his other essays. And since we know that dispensationalism is irrefutably wrong and was created by crypto-jew Jesuits who deny Christ, we have to take the premise that proper Biblical eschatology is most likely post- or amillenial, not pre-millenial. Because of Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy being fulfilled at 70 A.D., because Jesus had told his disciples that "This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled", the temple being destroyed, and Torah Judaism effectively ending and disbanding with the tearing of the curtain and then the destruction of the temple and survivors converting to Christianity which was the fulfillment of much of the new testament writings, which were written prior to AD 70. I pray that God will open your mind to the truth with the Holy Spirit, as well as the other readers, to this great deception that has plagued our church for the past century or more.
Well, that's ironic, that you disregard 20th century's appalling and ongoing terrorist history of 'Slam, Nazis, 'Allies-British Empire' etc against the Jews & the modern state of Israel {& world takeover, as ordered by the K'ran] -presumably just allowable 'bloodletting' in your mysterious' 'Millennium' - Satan on a long rubber leash?! ... As for the Illuminati etc 'Zionist' State - my favourite study, by the way, seeing as I was myself a druggy, majiccy, guru-y,-'New-ager' etc before becoming a published, YE Creationist & hence Gen to Rev Christian.... Anyway, I am not a Dispensationalist, nor do nor I believe the '70th week' is completely fulfilled, if not 'just' the final 3 & 1/2 yrs after Jesus did His Big Bit when 'cut off in the middle of it, causing sacrifice etc to cease. with his Crucifixion. - But obviously not the final bit, as the the final destruction of the Romish -A/Christ system has not yet been completely destroyed - not the 'desolater desolated' - nor will be until done so by Yeshua Himself returning, [although at the Cross, 'IT IS [spiritually] FINISHED'! ]....The simple fact of all the OT & NT prophecies yet to come, esp. Revelation, as I see unfolding myself as a progressive 'Histioricist'... knowing well that history when both 'Preterism' & 'Futurism' were largely formulated by Counter-Reformationist Jesuits! .......Then it was really bludgeoned onto the scriptures in the 19th century 'enlightenment' of both Pre-Trib Rapper, Dispy-Futurist-Kingdom-now-Faith-Prosperity-Replacementist Christians - & Theosophists, 'Christian' Sci-ists, World Council of Churchy-Guru pushers, Mormons, JWs, 7th Dayers. Bahais, Darwinists, Freudians, Hinduistic Physicists, and Uncle Tom Cobblers & All! .......Hence we are probably right on the verge of the final 3 1/2 yrs, of the end of the 7oth week, and all the 'Whore/Beast' stuff, like the last part of Daniel 12's 2300 days., when the final 'Abom of Des' is revealed - standing in a 'Holy Place' - the Church! - where every 'Christian' false prophet & false teacher 'has come out of'........ etc.....
"presumably just allowable 'bloodletting' in your mysterious' 'Millennium' - Satan on a long rubber leash?!"
It seems my futurist friend that you are once again drawing from your well of assumptions, picturing a Millennium where sin and death are entirely eradicated — a curious notion indeed, but one without Scriptural grounding.
Indeed, in Revelation 20:1-3 we see that Satan is bound, restricted from deceiving the nations. However, nothing in this passage suggests that sin and death are abolished during this period, or that his minions are similarly bound. In fact, such an idea runs counter to other clear eschatological passages. Speaking of the final coming of our LORD, 1st Corinthians 15:25-26 tells us that Christ must reign until all His enemies are subdued; including death, which is called the final enemy. This means that even during Christ’s reign, death persists and is only ultimately defeated AFTER the Millennium (Revelation 20:14).
Consider Isaiah 65:20, often cited in discussions of the Millennium. The text plainly mentions that even in this time, there will be sinners who will face death: “There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.” Far from a utopian era of perfection, it is clear that sin and death continue to exist during a future Millennium. Your assertion of a Millennium devoid of death and sin stands in direct contradiction to these passages. This is an issue that the futurist or historic premillennialist must grapple with as well: it is hardly the riposte that you consider it be.
Now, to the issue of preterism. The baseless claim that preterism was an invention of the Jesuits is a common but historically inaccurate attack. Preterism, far from being a modern creation, was embraced by several notable pre-Nicaean church fathers who saw significant prophetic fulfillment in the events surrounding the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. For instance, Eusebius, in his Ecclesiastical History, describes the destruction of Jerusalem as the direct fulfillment of the Olivet Discourse. Likewise, Clement of Alexandria, writing in the 2nd century, interpreted Daniel's 70 weeks as being fulfilled during the devastation of Jerusalem.
The notion that a preterist reading of Matthew 24 and Daniel 9 is some kind of Jesuit invention is simply a convenient myth, largely propagated by those unwilling to seriously contend with the preterist interpretation.
I am not a bony-fido 'Futurist' as should have been apparent from my posts! They are usually Pre-trib Rappers and give the whole 70th week to SATAN-A/C! [Whereas Dan 9 actually says 'One week [70th] will establish covt - Jesus' 'New Covt' of Jer 31 that we are grafted into! There is no 'FOR one week' in the oldest Greek or Hebrew, and FOR is in Italics in most Bibles.]..... And I am also well aware a post=2nd Coming Millennium is by no means devoid of death - as I said when mentioning the destruction of most people on earth at the end of it - bar the 'Holy People & Holy City', to paraphrase from memory! ....The purpose of a Millennium would also seem to be for Jesus to 'Rule with a rod of iron - and smash the nations to pieces', too, to meld Psalm 2 & Revelation!... Although that is happening now, Satan is by no means binned, yet I actually have also long had problems with a literal Post-2nd Coming Millennium, as with one at any other time!.......It certainly is not in any way pre-Fall Edenic, as many believe....... {I am also an ex- JW!] ......Millennium or 'New Heavns & New Earth' when He returns - we'll see! Even Isaiah 65-66 seems confused, saying there will still be death in the NH & NE! The important thing is to be ready for whatever He brings in......AFTER dreadful, 'Perilous Times hard to deal with' - as He will return 'Immediately AFTER the tribulation' and judge all the living, Sheep & Goats, Wheat & Tares, Matt 13 & Matt 24 - Hang on!
I apologize for any intellectual disparagement in my earlier comment, for you seem to study the Bible and if you follow Yeshua, I consider you a brother. I also apologize for incorrectly assuming you are a dispensationalist, it just seemed that you hold some eschatological views that coincide with dispensationalism. I think you misunderstand me: I don't "disregard the 20th century's appalling and ongoing terrorist history of 'Slam, Nazis, Allies-British Empire etc against the Jews & the modern state of Israel". There are many atrocities which have been committed by many different groups of people, including modern day terrorism against the people of Gaza by the "Jewish" state. My point is that the whole thing is a set-up, a delusion, a war game, ultimately controlled by spiritual forces of wickedness in high places, but in the human realm it is controlled by those who call themselves Jews but are not. I believe Jesus would refer to this group as the Synagogue of Satan, which I believe is the modern israeli state government and idf, but would include the Rothschild bankers, and even adjacent parties such as Free Masons, Illuminati, Albert Pike, etc. I would proffer some new ideas for you to think about and research for yourself: (1) The origins of Islam with the prophet Muhammad is dubious and Islam seems to have many aspects of their faith in common with Judaic-Babylonian Telmud. Maybe "jews" started Islam? Remember, these are not true Jews, they do not follow YHWH, they follow Satan (2) In Menasseh ben Israel's letter to Oliver Cromwell in 1655, ben Israel (a jewish scholar from Amsterdam) waxes poetic about how the Sultans in the middle east are controlled by the "jews", because the jews control their purses. (3) WW2 history is not what it seems, you may want to research the reasons for the war, i.e. why would Jewish bankers want to start a war to set up a "jewish" state in the middle east and then design a heretical doctrine to infect the Western protestant church to support the "jewish" state above all else (dispensationalism) (4) Fact: Modern Israel state Mossad created Hamas in order to oppose and depose, eventual assassinate Yasser Arafat. (5) Karl Marx - communist, Jew. Is there any greater bloodshed committed in the 20th century than that by the communists? I believe the Holocaust really did happen, exaggerated or not, but it pales in comparison to the Bolshevik revolution and the extermination of 15-20 million Christians, or Mao in China (https://ics.um.edu.my/img/files/IJCS-112-1Yitzhak-for-website.pdf). It seems to me that the facts all lead back to the Telmudic Ashkenazi "jews" as the human origins of all this bloodshed. And ultimately, all roads lead back to Satan.
Thanks for the apologies about your assumptions! Everyone does not fit into the tidy, largely unquestioning theological slots mere humans have allotted us....... Naturally I have some 'Eschatological' views in line with several theories like Dispensationalism, 70th week Futurism, and especially Historicism, etc, as anyone would who believes the LORD is Returning as 'the Avenger of Blood' if only after, and with, massive global upset! ........The 6000 yrs of this stage of Creation must be up soon, hence so many believing in an actual 1000 yr Millennium immediately following His return, in common with Biblical 7s,& 70s, Times, 3 1/2 yrs, 42 months etc, formulae.... I can argue for and against that - but, if it was as straightforward as so many of you believe, we would not have been 'debating' it for the last 2000 yrs! .....As for all 'the Blood of prophets and of saints and ALL who have been slain on earth', that is finally attributed in Revelation 18 to a 'Christian'-Romish Whore 'Queen of Heaven' Church-lead 'Babylon the Great', the final world empire of all false Interfaith religion [including the mangled Jewish-eastern Christian version of the Bible attributed to Muhhmd!] ....... As before that it was attributed by Christ to 'the offspring of vipers..... scribes & Pharisees' of His days on earth! But that was 'All the righteous Blood shed on earth from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah...whom you murdered between the temple and the altar', to that time..... NOTE that 'Generation' also means 'Race', hence the ethnic Jews ongoing after the Cross, for as Luke 21: 24 says clearly, 'THIS PEOPLE' - the Jews - will fall by the edge of the sword and be lead captive into all the nations and Jerusalem would be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles UNTIL the Times of the Gentiles be fulfilled' - just as Romans 11 explains how there has Been a 'PARTIEL HARDENING' on the Jews UNTIL the fullness of the Gentiles has come - then He turns His attention back on the Jews in their extremis- THUS all Israel will be saved - Jew & Gentile together in the 'Israel of God', surely, as I said before!.......And whether they are all fully ethnic Jews or not did not trouble Hitler or Arafat's Great Uncle, the Mufti of Jerusalem who concorded with Hitler to come and wipe all the Jews out in Israel after the war!!.... Anyway, I was a 'New-Ager' & JW etc myself, then later read many books on the whole 'Hermeticism- Freemasonry-Illuminati-Rothschilds' et al half-assed conspiracies, and others on the last 2000 yrs by people like Grattan-Guinness, Mark Flynn's 'Labyrinth', Alan Morrison's 'The Serpent and The Cross', Musker's 'New World Religion, Beliefs of the Elite' etc etc - even the A-Post Millm Wilcock's 'The Message of Revelation' - but all I really know is we need to be ready for His Return, so need to 'look up as we see all these things occurring for our redemption draws nigh'..... And if you think that Israel, bad or not, surviving 200 Iranian Missiles with only one dead - a so-called 'Palestinian' who refused to go into a Jewish air-raid shelter ! - is not being protected by GOD, as with virtually all the other 'Slamish attacks on them since 1948, that's some miracle denying! .......[By the way, I'm also well aware that Matt 24-Luke 21-Revltn-Daniel-Isaiah etc etc are typically complex, dual time prophecies on several levels, for the Jewish 'generation-race;' then and now, and us Goyim & the Church - and as I said before, BOTH are in rebellion and both are the source of false prophets and false teachers, incl. a final 'A/C' Beast' but one was already in power in John & Pauls day - 'Beasts' were never just one person!....Add in the next SPAMDEMIC & AI-Meta-UN_WHO_WEF VaxxPorts - & Kammy! - etc and we are well on the way to Armageddon! ..... MARANATHA!!!!!!!!! ]
Well-argued essay, Scipio. Thank you for re-posting it now, on a day in which the entire MSM has devoted itself to promoting a "10/7 Memorial" and telling us that "anti-Semitism" is "at an all-time high" and "should scare us all." Like all of your essays, this one is disturbing and edifying at the same time, like all truth that is clearly spoken.
Great work Scipio!
Hi, first mad respect for what you do and your boldness of character. Your work is waking them up no doubt. Trying to be short and concise as I can be you might be interested in a guy named Brandon J. Williams his YouTube is Brandon Joe Williams Law made fun and simple. I believe the work he's doing is absolutely essential to saving our country. I think you should definitely look at what he is doing. IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER HE USES LOTS OF 4 LETTER WORDS AND CRUDE (HILARIOUS) HUMOR LOOK PAST THIS AND AT HIS WORK AND WHAT HE IS ACCOMPLISHING. IT IS GAME CHANGING!
Thank you for another edifying read/listen. Be safe in this upcoming storm/hurricane. I’m not sure where you are exactly, just heard you say Florida. I’m in the panhandle of florida….L.A.-lower Alabama pretty much. Praying for safety of anyone who may be affected. Blessings in our Lord, Savior, and King, Jesus Christ. Amen 🙏💕
Are you really unaware that most Muzlms, HMAS, HZBOLLAH, IRAN, etc, as in PLO Charter's order for the 'ELIMINATION OF THE ZIONIST PRESENCE', have no intention of letting ANY Jews live in 'Palestine'?!.... 'From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free'!?........That they have attacked Israel virtually every day since 1948 when the modern state of Israel was set up, & the Arabs [not 'Philistines-Palestinians', at least ethnically!} were given or have taken c 85% of the ancient land of Israel?!l.........And that they have refused EVERY Peace Treaty since then, even when mistakenly given 'Land for Peace' by the Jews - only to immediately start attacking Israel from them?!...........That they already have a so-called 'Two State Solution' as when they were given the vast majority of the land in 1948 as an Arab State of Trans-Jordan'?!...........That God also gave Ishmael-Esau's descendants their own '12 Tribes, princes' & lands - but to the 'EAST OF THE JORDAN'?! [ Gen 17, Gen 21, Gen 25,]That, as the apostle Paul says, if God has cast the Jews off, then He will cast off us Christians, only grafted into their Olive tree of Israel, too?! ............That YHVH DOES NOT BREAK HIS MANY PROMISES via Abraham etc to give them the land forever- even if they disobey and He banishes them, as He promised and did, but that He will bring them back, anyway [Deut 28 etc]?!............ That if it depended on our good conduct, then everyone, both JEW & GENTILE in the 'ISRAEL OF GOD' Galatians 6[, would all be destroyed?!........... THAT He promised to turn His attention back to the Jews - 'when the fullness of the Gentiles has come in, so in that way, ALL ISRAEL [always only a 'REMNANT'] WILL BE SAVED:?! The 'Israel of God'........... As for all your so-called 'bloodletting', we can clearly see from the 6000 largely appalling yrs of Creation that God Himself has, and will, slaughter billions, incl. virtually everyone in the Flood, & some 2/3rds of the world at Armageddon & the 2nd Coming, and at the end of a literal Millennium, post-2nd Coming, HE destroys virtually everyone again?!........... And then punishes them and all the other deniers forever, as well! ....That it was God Himself who created the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil', and Satan, God Himself who 'subjected all the creation to suffering in pain' - ' IN HOPE' [Roms 8] ! ...IN Hope, presumably, that we would see that however bad it gets down here, all the persecution, hatred, martyrdom, beheading etc, promised Believers, all absolutely guaranteed and barely begun yet, in the modern West anyway - YHVH-YESHUA's own appalling, barely comprehensible suffering on the Cross-Tree for all our evil, sin & suffering, would cap all of that, and all that is just 'Rubbish 'anyway, as Paul says..... 'passing away, like the world and all its desires'........... And Good riddance too.... Just the political UN-WHO-WEF-Pharma-Gatesian-Meta-AI-VR 'Beast' & Interfaith 'Whore' 'to go NOW, with its Rev 13 No Buy-No Sell, Didgy-ID-'Mark' Vaxxport....??!! MARANATHA!
There are simply too many points to address properly here, but let me address the two which are most salient: whether Israel has been cast off, and whether there are any land promises still outstanding for ethnic/national Israel. I would point you towards my Wolves Within series and book if you are wanting a more in-depth, exegetical exploration of this topic: https://dfreality.substack.com/p/the-wolves-within
To that first point, Romans 11 does not suggest a future national conversion of ethnic Israel. It is essential to consider this chapter in the broader context of Paul's argument, which stretches from Romans 9 to 11. Paul clearly distinguishes between two Israels: "They are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children" (Romans 9:6-7). This defines who the "true Israel" is — the Israel of faith, those who trust in Christ. So when Paul says, "And so all Israel shall be saved" (Romans 11:26), it would truly be bizarre if he were referring to a future collective national salvation of ethnic Jews since he says mere verses before they must not persist in their unbelief in order to be grafted in (i.e. saved) (Romans 11:23).
The olive tree metaphor demonstrates this. Branches were broken off because of unbelief, and Gentiles were grafted in by faith. This is not about ethnicity but about belief. The salvation of Israel, in Paul’s argument, is spiritual, not genetic. The remnant of faithful Judeans, those who embrace Jesus as Messiah, are part of this salvation alongside believing Gentiles. So, in this sense, "all Israel" means the full number of the elect in Christ — both Judean and Gentile — who are saved by faith.
Regarding future land promises, Joshua 21:43-45 is explicit: "And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein... there failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass." The text could not be clearer — God has fulfilled His promise! The entirety of the land promised to Israel was given during Joshua’s conquest. There is no serious Scriptural basis for arguing that the land promises remain unfulfilled, especially in a literal, physical sense.
While there was a clear historical land grant to Abraham's descendants (those of faith, as Galatians 3 makes clear), it’s crucial to recognize that the New Testament elucidates our understanding of such promises. In Hebrews 11, we see that the patriarchs were "strangers and pilgrims on the earth," looking for a heavenly city, not merely an earthly territory (Hebrews 11:13-16). Thus, the fulfillment of God's promises to Abraham’s descendants is not ultimately about physical land on an Earth that will be destroyed; but about the Kingdom of God, one which is spiritual and eternal. This is a critical point in understanding the broader narrative of Scripture.
As for the covenant with Abraham, while it is described as "everlasting" (Genesis 17:7-8), it was never without conditions tied to faith and obedience. Even Abraham himself had to fulfill specific acts of obedience, such as leaving his homeland (Genesis 12:1-4) and instituting circumcision (Genesis 17:9-14), to maintain the covenant. Thus, God's promises always came with the expectation of faith and obedience — even for the patriarchs.
This pattern continues throughout ethnic Israel’s history. Deuteronomy 28 further elaborates on this conditional aspect, laying out not only the blessings for obedience but also the severe curses for disobedience. These curses include being driven from the land, being scattered among the nations, and experiencing every conceivable hardship (Deuteronomy 28:15-68). The Zionist state today, which is often viewed by some as a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy, is in abrogation of nearly all these covenantal conditions.
These curses have clearly come into effect, given ethnic Israel’s repeated history of exile and dispersion since 70 AD. Crucially, to fulfill the covenant, to truly obey the commandments of Moses, ethnic Israel HAS to accept Jesus as the Messiah (Duet. 18:18-19, Acts 3:22-23). And, as Jesus Himself said, "If ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me" (John 5:46).
This presents a significant issue for the modern Zionist state and those who claim it is a fulfillment of Biblical prophecies. It is not a nation that follows Christ, nor does it adhere to the faithfulness required under either the Old or New Covenant. To claim that the land promises remain valid without accepting Christ as the fulfillment of the Law and Prophets is a fundamental contradiction.
Simply put, there are no promises, spiritual or otherwise, outside of Christ (2 Corinthians 1:20).
God bless.
THANKS Scipio, Yes I'm well aware of all that and 'spiritual Israel 'etc, and I don't think all of the present land of Israel or its very secular state will be 'saved' at the very physical Armageddon-2nd coming! .....BUT God also promised the wonderful two-part prophecy of Zech 12 to the physical inhabitants of Jerusalem at that time [not the 'Jerusalem above, our Mother'!]. in fact & when He will TWCE come, " And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."........ As John 19 says, the 'look on me whom they have pierced' was first fulfilled at the Cross, but they, or the world, did not mourn then! ...The rest will only happen at His 2nd Coming, as in Rev 1, when I personally expect many Jews in their extremis at the worlds armies attacking, and that much mentioned 'Remnant'- as by Paul in Roms 9-11 [!}] - will indeed also fulfil Matt 23 and say, 'Barush H'Bar B'Shem Adonai; - and be 'saved'......Everyone who calls on the Name of the Lord will be saved'......... And I'm well aware of not understanding all of the scriptures etc - or such paradoxes as 'Hyper Calvinisms' robotism & 'Free Will' etc - the Bible has both. It also has two Israels, if ultimately only one.... & both currently in rebellion. and largely unprepared for HIS Return!
Philip, that was a largely pointless reply. You obviously have a poor understanding of history and the Bible because of the heresy of dispensationalist doctrine. Even a cursory glance at the origins of dispensationalism will lead you to the truth. I was once in your camp (although that unorganized comment is hard to read) in that I too was brought up in protestant "boomerisms" of dispensationalism and Left Behind heresies. I humbly recommend that you do more research on this subject before you spout off unhinged nonsense, and do away with your false premises. Please understand, the Jews vs. Muslims is a psy-op strategy war game that the globalists (read: Satan and spiritual forces of wickedness in high places) are playing with the West and the Christian church, to implement a great delusion and turning away from the truth. Current Israel are not the Jews of the Abrahamic covenant. In fact, all those who profess Christ are now grafted in to the covenant as Jesus fulfilled the law perfectly and those who deny Jesus are cut off. Therefore, true Christians who accept Jesus would be known as Jews or Israelites under the Abrahamic covenant. As for those who call themselves Jews but are not (synagogue of Satan), it would be more appropriate to refer to them as "yews" since they practice Telmudic and Kabbalistic Judaism and deny Christ. They even claim to be descendants of Ashkenaz, not Shem (therefore are not semites, although God does not care about ethnicity - read Paul's letter to the Romans and the genealogy of Jesus), and have immigrated to "israel" as a result of the Rothschild bankers plans (https://archive.org/details/two-rothschilds-and-the-land-of-israel-by-simon-schama) and Masonic influence in WW1 and WW2, controlling all sides of the wars and are currently set on WW3 between the "jews" and the muslims, which has already begun. All of these plans were laid out by Albert Pike in the late 1800s. Scipio documents all of these things and more in his other essays. And since we know that dispensationalism is irrefutably wrong and was created by crypto-jew Jesuits who deny Christ, we have to take the premise that proper Biblical eschatology is most likely post- or amillenial, not pre-millenial. Because of Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy being fulfilled at 70 A.D., because Jesus had told his disciples that "This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled", the temple being destroyed, and Torah Judaism effectively ending and disbanding with the tearing of the curtain and then the destruction of the temple and survivors converting to Christianity which was the fulfillment of much of the new testament writings, which were written prior to AD 70. I pray that God will open your mind to the truth with the Holy Spirit, as well as the other readers, to this great deception that has plagued our church for the past century or more.
Well, that's ironic, that you disregard 20th century's appalling and ongoing terrorist history of 'Slam, Nazis, 'Allies-British Empire' etc against the Jews & the modern state of Israel {& world takeover, as ordered by the K'ran] -presumably just allowable 'bloodletting' in your mysterious' 'Millennium' - Satan on a long rubber leash?! ... As for the Illuminati etc 'Zionist' State - my favourite study, by the way, seeing as I was myself a druggy, majiccy, guru-y,-'New-ager' etc before becoming a published, YE Creationist & hence Gen to Rev Christian.... Anyway, I am not a Dispensationalist, nor do nor I believe the '70th week' is completely fulfilled, if not 'just' the final 3 & 1/2 yrs after Jesus did His Big Bit when 'cut off in the middle of it, causing sacrifice etc to cease. with his Crucifixion. - But obviously not the final bit, as the the final destruction of the Romish -A/Christ system has not yet been completely destroyed - not the 'desolater desolated' - nor will be until done so by Yeshua Himself returning, [although at the Cross, 'IT IS [spiritually] FINISHED'! ]....The simple fact of all the OT & NT prophecies yet to come, esp. Revelation, as I see unfolding myself as a progressive 'Histioricist'... knowing well that history when both 'Preterism' & 'Futurism' were largely formulated by Counter-Reformationist Jesuits! .......Then it was really bludgeoned onto the scriptures in the 19th century 'enlightenment' of both Pre-Trib Rapper, Dispy-Futurist-Kingdom-now-Faith-Prosperity-Replacementist Christians - & Theosophists, 'Christian' Sci-ists, World Council of Churchy-Guru pushers, Mormons, JWs, 7th Dayers. Bahais, Darwinists, Freudians, Hinduistic Physicists, and Uncle Tom Cobblers & All! .......Hence we are probably right on the verge of the final 3 1/2 yrs, of the end of the 7oth week, and all the 'Whore/Beast' stuff, like the last part of Daniel 12's 2300 days., when the final 'Abom of Des' is revealed - standing in a 'Holy Place' - the Church! - where every 'Christian' false prophet & false teacher 'has come out of'........ etc.....
"presumably just allowable 'bloodletting' in your mysterious' 'Millennium' - Satan on a long rubber leash?!"
It seems my futurist friend that you are once again drawing from your well of assumptions, picturing a Millennium where sin and death are entirely eradicated — a curious notion indeed, but one without Scriptural grounding.
Indeed, in Revelation 20:1-3 we see that Satan is bound, restricted from deceiving the nations. However, nothing in this passage suggests that sin and death are abolished during this period, or that his minions are similarly bound. In fact, such an idea runs counter to other clear eschatological passages. Speaking of the final coming of our LORD, 1st Corinthians 15:25-26 tells us that Christ must reign until all His enemies are subdued; including death, which is called the final enemy. This means that even during Christ’s reign, death persists and is only ultimately defeated AFTER the Millennium (Revelation 20:14).
Consider Isaiah 65:20, often cited in discussions of the Millennium. The text plainly mentions that even in this time, there will be sinners who will face death: “There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.” Far from a utopian era of perfection, it is clear that sin and death continue to exist during a future Millennium. Your assertion of a Millennium devoid of death and sin stands in direct contradiction to these passages. This is an issue that the futurist or historic premillennialist must grapple with as well: it is hardly the riposte that you consider it be.
Now, to the issue of preterism. The baseless claim that preterism was an invention of the Jesuits is a common but historically inaccurate attack. Preterism, far from being a modern creation, was embraced by several notable pre-Nicaean church fathers who saw significant prophetic fulfillment in the events surrounding the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. For instance, Eusebius, in his Ecclesiastical History, describes the destruction of Jerusalem as the direct fulfillment of the Olivet Discourse. Likewise, Clement of Alexandria, writing in the 2nd century, interpreted Daniel's 70 weeks as being fulfilled during the devastation of Jerusalem.
The notion that a preterist reading of Matthew 24 and Daniel 9 is some kind of Jesuit invention is simply a convenient myth, largely propagated by those unwilling to seriously contend with the preterist interpretation.
I am not a bony-fido 'Futurist' as should have been apparent from my posts! They are usually Pre-trib Rappers and give the whole 70th week to SATAN-A/C! [Whereas Dan 9 actually says 'One week [70th] will establish covt - Jesus' 'New Covt' of Jer 31 that we are grafted into! There is no 'FOR one week' in the oldest Greek or Hebrew, and FOR is in Italics in most Bibles.]..... And I am also well aware a post=2nd Coming Millennium is by no means devoid of death - as I said when mentioning the destruction of most people on earth at the end of it - bar the 'Holy People & Holy City', to paraphrase from memory! ....The purpose of a Millennium would also seem to be for Jesus to 'Rule with a rod of iron - and smash the nations to pieces', too, to meld Psalm 2 & Revelation!... Although that is happening now, Satan is by no means binned, yet I actually have also long had problems with a literal Post-2nd Coming Millennium, as with one at any other time!.......It certainly is not in any way pre-Fall Edenic, as many believe....... {I am also an ex- JW!] ......Millennium or 'New Heavns & New Earth' when He returns - we'll see! Even Isaiah 65-66 seems confused, saying there will still be death in the NH & NE! The important thing is to be ready for whatever He brings in......AFTER dreadful, 'Perilous Times hard to deal with' - as He will return 'Immediately AFTER the tribulation' and judge all the living, Sheep & Goats, Wheat & Tares, Matt 13 & Matt 24 - Hang on!
I apologize for any intellectual disparagement in my earlier comment, for you seem to study the Bible and if you follow Yeshua, I consider you a brother. I also apologize for incorrectly assuming you are a dispensationalist, it just seemed that you hold some eschatological views that coincide with dispensationalism. I think you misunderstand me: I don't "disregard the 20th century's appalling and ongoing terrorist history of 'Slam, Nazis, Allies-British Empire etc against the Jews & the modern state of Israel". There are many atrocities which have been committed by many different groups of people, including modern day terrorism against the people of Gaza by the "Jewish" state. My point is that the whole thing is a set-up, a delusion, a war game, ultimately controlled by spiritual forces of wickedness in high places, but in the human realm it is controlled by those who call themselves Jews but are not. I believe Jesus would refer to this group as the Synagogue of Satan, which I believe is the modern israeli state government and idf, but would include the Rothschild bankers, and even adjacent parties such as Free Masons, Illuminati, Albert Pike, etc. I would proffer some new ideas for you to think about and research for yourself: (1) The origins of Islam with the prophet Muhammad is dubious and Islam seems to have many aspects of their faith in common with Judaic-Babylonian Telmud. Maybe "jews" started Islam? Remember, these are not true Jews, they do not follow YHWH, they follow Satan (2) In Menasseh ben Israel's letter to Oliver Cromwell in 1655, ben Israel (a jewish scholar from Amsterdam) waxes poetic about how the Sultans in the middle east are controlled by the "jews", because the jews control their purses. (3) WW2 history is not what it seems, you may want to research the reasons for the war, i.e. why would Jewish bankers want to start a war to set up a "jewish" state in the middle east and then design a heretical doctrine to infect the Western protestant church to support the "jewish" state above all else (dispensationalism) (4) Fact: Modern Israel state Mossad created Hamas in order to oppose and depose, eventual assassinate Yasser Arafat. (5) Karl Marx - communist, Jew. Is there any greater bloodshed committed in the 20th century than that by the communists? I believe the Holocaust really did happen, exaggerated or not, but it pales in comparison to the Bolshevik revolution and the extermination of 15-20 million Christians, or Mao in China (https://ics.um.edu.my/img/files/IJCS-112-1Yitzhak-for-website.pdf). It seems to me that the facts all lead back to the Telmudic Ashkenazi "jews" as the human origins of all this bloodshed. And ultimately, all roads lead back to Satan.
Thanks for the apologies about your assumptions! Everyone does not fit into the tidy, largely unquestioning theological slots mere humans have allotted us....... Naturally I have some 'Eschatological' views in line with several theories like Dispensationalism, 70th week Futurism, and especially Historicism, etc, as anyone would who believes the LORD is Returning as 'the Avenger of Blood' if only after, and with, massive global upset! ........The 6000 yrs of this stage of Creation must be up soon, hence so many believing in an actual 1000 yr Millennium immediately following His return, in common with Biblical 7s,& 70s, Times, 3 1/2 yrs, 42 months etc, formulae.... I can argue for and against that - but, if it was as straightforward as so many of you believe, we would not have been 'debating' it for the last 2000 yrs! .....As for all 'the Blood of prophets and of saints and ALL who have been slain on earth', that is finally attributed in Revelation 18 to a 'Christian'-Romish Whore 'Queen of Heaven' Church-lead 'Babylon the Great', the final world empire of all false Interfaith religion [including the mangled Jewish-eastern Christian version of the Bible attributed to Muhhmd!] ....... As before that it was attributed by Christ to 'the offspring of vipers..... scribes & Pharisees' of His days on earth! But that was 'All the righteous Blood shed on earth from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah...whom you murdered between the temple and the altar', to that time..... NOTE that 'Generation' also means 'Race', hence the ethnic Jews ongoing after the Cross, for as Luke 21: 24 says clearly, 'THIS PEOPLE' - the Jews - will fall by the edge of the sword and be lead captive into all the nations and Jerusalem would be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles UNTIL the Times of the Gentiles be fulfilled' - just as Romans 11 explains how there has Been a 'PARTIEL HARDENING' on the Jews UNTIL the fullness of the Gentiles has come - then He turns His attention back on the Jews in their extremis- THUS all Israel will be saved - Jew & Gentile together in the 'Israel of God', surely, as I said before!.......And whether they are all fully ethnic Jews or not did not trouble Hitler or Arafat's Great Uncle, the Mufti of Jerusalem who concorded with Hitler to come and wipe all the Jews out in Israel after the war!!.... Anyway, I was a 'New-Ager' & JW etc myself, then later read many books on the whole 'Hermeticism- Freemasonry-Illuminati-Rothschilds' et al half-assed conspiracies, and others on the last 2000 yrs by people like Grattan-Guinness, Mark Flynn's 'Labyrinth', Alan Morrison's 'The Serpent and The Cross', Musker's 'New World Religion, Beliefs of the Elite' etc etc - even the A-Post Millm Wilcock's 'The Message of Revelation' - but all I really know is we need to be ready for His Return, so need to 'look up as we see all these things occurring for our redemption draws nigh'..... And if you think that Israel, bad or not, surviving 200 Iranian Missiles with only one dead - a so-called 'Palestinian' who refused to go into a Jewish air-raid shelter ! - is not being protected by GOD, as with virtually all the other 'Slamish attacks on them since 1948, that's some miracle denying! .......[By the way, I'm also well aware that Matt 24-Luke 21-Revltn-Daniel-Isaiah etc etc are typically complex, dual time prophecies on several levels, for the Jewish 'generation-race;' then and now, and us Goyim & the Church - and as I said before, BOTH are in rebellion and both are the source of false prophets and false teachers, incl. a final 'A/C' Beast' but one was already in power in John & Pauls day - 'Beasts' were never just one person!....Add in the next SPAMDEMIC & AI-Meta-UN_WHO_WEF VaxxPorts - & Kammy! - etc and we are well on the way to Armageddon! ..... MARANATHA!!!!!!!!! ]
All I can say in response to that Philip... is... "wow"... 😳
The Bibles 6000 yrs of this earth's history is indeed a Huge WOW! And almost up...