Thank you for this posting... I grew up in the Anglican Church of Canada... went through Sunday school, sang in the girl's choir, attended meetings for young girls in the denomination, and did the confirmation process... but, although hearing about and in a sense believing there was a God, on a personal level the challenges of living in a dysfunctional familial situation in a world that was facing many societal challenges... found me not seeing the spiritual side of life on earth. 50 yrs ago through circumstances that had to be orchestrated by Our Father, the reality of His desire to be an integral part of my life was introduced to me. It has been both an incredible journey while also being challenging. One of the speakers I listened to for a time was Derek Prince... and some Kenneth Hagin... One fellowship I attended for a few years was big on deliverance (per Winn Worely) and diminishing women in a disturbing manner... Your writing this posting provides some answers/clarification that I will be seeking more insight regarding... and prayerful consideration as to how my walk has been affected along with how to proceed from this point forward. I so want to be at a place of more internal comprehension of living from spiritual truths not hitherto achieved.
Question - without getting into rituals or incantations - what happens to a nation or entire civilization which has a Christian culture and then slowly through several generations loses that culture? Sound familiar? As with the Boomers in particular? Are their heirs now not affected by the conditions of that nation or civilization which were created by either neglect or willful ignorance of the previous generations?
There are clear consequences - both individually and collectively - when we forget who God is. He is not just a God inside our church walls or community.
The Ecclesia is the answer. A small group of true believers is many times more powerful than a large group of those who are simply posers of convenience.
This was a doctrine that was pushed on us way back in the early years after I came to faith in Christ along with the “priest of the home” notion. I rejected them both for reasons too numerous to outline here. I haven’t thought much about it lately, but, you did a yeomans job in spelling it out here.
Interesting read. I’m thankful that you acknowledged that the sin of parents does have ramifications on families. I’ve experienced it firsthand and in supernatural ways - which would take awhile to explain - even though I grew up in a Christian home. There were most certainly demonic forces at work behind the scenes. I’m not familiar with the charismatic rituals that you mention. But I agree 💯 that it takes repentance and faith to overcome. But we should be vigilant to recognize that devils will take advantage of every loophole to keep people in bondage to sin - that includes the temptation to sin down to the third and forth generations - unless we deal with our sins and walk in newness of life. Thankfully Christ triumphed over all the spiritual forces of darkness on the cross. We have His resurrection power to put them down.
Thank you Mischelle, I’d be interested to read about them.
Like any convincing false doctrine, there are seeds of truth in it: we all see and live with the effects of generational sin every day. I too can attest to the reality of spiritual forces as well. Where I vehemently disagree with these modern teachings is that we as Christians are powerless against them.
“I’m not familiar with the charismatic rituals that you mention.”
And you’re better for it 😂 unfortunately I grew up surrounded by a lot of these very erroneous doctrines and have seen the damage they cause to folks first-hand. It robs us of our responsibility for our sins and allows folks an easy scapegoat for their actions.
Now to be fair to the Charismatics, it’s only within the last 30 years or so that this doctrine has started to saturate their theology. I’m fairly certain the Assemblies of God still formally reject these teachings, I know they did at one point.
Scripture can be made to appear to say most anything, to those who do not study and know it. I also grew up in false teachings, though of a different sort, from about age 12. What I had learned before that seems to have been "mostly" orthodox, and fundamentalist as opposed to modernist. I did not reconcile with God until I was in my mid-60's, just seven years ago.
Reconciling with churches is a whole 'nother matter. I am a member of one, reformed/evangelical, and I gather with the people there and volunteer in support of the services. The best I can say about it is that the teaching is biblical and that the leadership acknowledges the seriousness of the church's problems and is actively seeking to address them in a biblical manner.
Thank you for this posting... I grew up in the Anglican Church of Canada... went through Sunday school, sang in the girl's choir, attended meetings for young girls in the denomination, and did the confirmation process... but, although hearing about and in a sense believing there was a God, on a personal level the challenges of living in a dysfunctional familial situation in a world that was facing many societal challenges... found me not seeing the spiritual side of life on earth. 50 yrs ago through circumstances that had to be orchestrated by Our Father, the reality of His desire to be an integral part of my life was introduced to me. It has been both an incredible journey while also being challenging. One of the speakers I listened to for a time was Derek Prince... and some Kenneth Hagin... One fellowship I attended for a few years was big on deliverance (per Winn Worely) and diminishing women in a disturbing manner... Your writing this posting provides some answers/clarification that I will be seeking more insight regarding... and prayerful consideration as to how my walk has been affected along with how to proceed from this point forward. I so want to be at a place of more internal comprehension of living from spiritual truths not hitherto achieved.
Thank you... Blessings to you
All glory to The Father. God bless you as well sister.
Question - without getting into rituals or incantations - what happens to a nation or entire civilization which has a Christian culture and then slowly through several generations loses that culture? Sound familiar? As with the Boomers in particular? Are their heirs now not affected by the conditions of that nation or civilization which were created by either neglect or willful ignorance of the previous generations?
There are clear consequences - both individually and collectively - when we forget who God is. He is not just a God inside our church walls or community.
If you desire to read more , www.crushlimbraw.com - you can begin here.
Our purpose here is not only for personal salvation - we have a job to do!
The Ecclesia is the answer. A small group of true believers is many times more powerful than a large group of those who are simply posers of convenience.
This was a doctrine that was pushed on us way back in the early years after I came to faith in Christ along with the “priest of the home” notion. I rejected them both for reasons too numerous to outline here. I haven’t thought much about it lately, but, you did a yeomans job in spelling it out here.
Interesting read. I’m thankful that you acknowledged that the sin of parents does have ramifications on families. I’ve experienced it firsthand and in supernatural ways - which would take awhile to explain - even though I grew up in a Christian home. There were most certainly demonic forces at work behind the scenes. I’m not familiar with the charismatic rituals that you mention. But I agree 💯 that it takes repentance and faith to overcome. But we should be vigilant to recognize that devils will take advantage of every loophole to keep people in bondage to sin - that includes the temptation to sin down to the third and forth generations - unless we deal with our sins and walk in newness of life. Thankfully Christ triumphed over all the spiritual forces of darkness on the cross. We have His resurrection power to put them down.
Thank you Mischelle, I’d be interested to read about them.
Like any convincing false doctrine, there are seeds of truth in it: we all see and live with the effects of generational sin every day. I too can attest to the reality of spiritual forces as well. Where I vehemently disagree with these modern teachings is that we as Christians are powerless against them.
“I’m not familiar with the charismatic rituals that you mention.”
And you’re better for it 😂 unfortunately I grew up surrounded by a lot of these very erroneous doctrines and have seen the damage they cause to folks first-hand. It robs us of our responsibility for our sins and allows folks an easy scapegoat for their actions.
Here’s a good video on the topic from a critical lens: https://youtu.be/LmthafjMHLA?si=wVIzAhz-OzCUWxUI
Now to be fair to the Charismatics, it’s only within the last 30 years or so that this doctrine has started to saturate their theology. I’m fairly certain the Assemblies of God still formally reject these teachings, I know they did at one point.
Scripture can be made to appear to say most anything, to those who do not study and know it. I also grew up in false teachings, though of a different sort, from about age 12. What I had learned before that seems to have been "mostly" orthodox, and fundamentalist as opposed to modernist. I did not reconcile with God until I was in my mid-60's, just seven years ago.
Reconciling with churches is a whole 'nother matter. I am a member of one, reformed/evangelical, and I gather with the people there and volunteer in support of the services. The best I can say about it is that the teaching is biblical and that the leadership acknowledges the seriousness of the church's problems and is actively seeking to address them in a biblical manner.