Once more before I stop casting my pearls before swine:
Do you realize the difference between an assertion and evidence? Telling a story isn’t evidence.
This is an assertion: “The Bible is a forgery.”
Evidence for that assertion would be documents showing the before and after. All you have provided is your conjecture. This other atheist at least provided some scholarly sources, as pitiful as they were.
So, provide some actual manuscript evidence for your claims, not a bed time story.
Truth101 should be ignored because it does not back up anything in most of its utterances. It's time it gets cut loose. On the other hand there are people who have been awakened due to this scam and they are the collateral salvage. Probably few, As expected.
Video won’t play but I assume it’s about Pontius Pilate not existing either. Only problem with that is now we have archeological evidence verifying he did govern Judea during the late 20’s and early 30’s AD:
n the middle of the 100s AD, out along the south coast of the Black Sea, Glycon was the son of the God Apollo, who: came to Earth through a miraculous birth, was the Earthly manifestation of divinity, came to earth in fulfillment of divine prophecy, gave his chief believer the power of prophecy, gave believers the power to speak in tongues, performed miracles, healed the sick, and raised the dead
8. Zoroaster was born of a virgin and “immaculate conception by a ray of divine reason.” He was baptized in a river. In his youth he astounded wise men with his wisdom. He was tempted in the wilderness by the devil. He began his ministry at age 30. Zoroaster baptized with water, fire and “holy wind.” He cast out demons and restored the sight to a blind man. He taught about heaven and hell, and revealed mysteries, including resurrection, judgment, salvation and the apocalypse. He had a sacred cup or grail. He was slain. His religion had a eucharist. He was the “Word made flesh.” Zoroaster’s followers expected a “second coming” in the virgin-born Saoshynt or Savior, who is to come in 2341 AD and begin his ministry at age 30, ushering in a golden age.
9.Attis of Phrygia - was born on December 25 of the Virgin Nana. He was considered the savior who was slain for the salvation of mankind. His body as bread was eaten by his worshippers. He was both the Divine Son and the Father. On “Black Friday,” he was crucified on a tree, from which his holy blood ran down to redeem the earth. He descended into the underworld. After three days, Attis was resurrected
10. Horus - Born of a virgin, Isis. Only begotten son of the God Osiris. Birth heralded by the star Sirius, the morning star. Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human. Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus’ mother “Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child.” An angel tells Jesus’ father to: “Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt.” Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. Age at baptism: 30. Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. Was crucifed, descended into Hell; resurrected after three days
Buddha both went to their temples at the age of twelve, where they are said to have astonished all with their wisdom. Both supposedly fasted in solitude for a long time: Buddha for forty–seven days and Jesus for forty. Both wandered to a fig tree at the conclusion of their fasts. Both were about the same age when they began their public ministry:
“When he [Buddha] went again to the garden he saw a monk who was calm, tranquil, self–possessed, serene, and dignified. The prince, determined to become such a monk, was led to make the great renunciation. At the time he was twenty–nine years of age… “Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age.” (Luke 3:23). Both were tempted by the “devil” at the beginning of their ministry: To Buddha, he said: “Go not forth to adopt a religious life but return to your kingdom, and in seven days you shall become emperor of the world, riding over the four continents.” To Jesus, he said: “All these [kingdoms of the world] I will give you, if you fall down and worship me” (Matthew 4:9). Buddha answered the “devil”: “Get you away from me.”Jesus responded: “…begone, Satan!” (Matthew 4:10). Both strove to establish a kingdom of heaven on earth. According to the Somadeva (a Buddhist holy book), a Buddhist ascetic’s eye once offended him, so he plucked it out and cast it away. Jesus said: “If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out, and throw it away;.” (Matthew 5:29).
2. Krishna - Krishna
Radha Y Krishna according to to Bhagavata Purana some believe that Krishna was born without a sexual union, by “mental transmission” from the mind of Vasudeva into the womb of Devaki, his mother. Christ and Krishna were called both God and the Son of God. Both were sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man. Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity. Krishna’s adoptive human father was also a carpenter. A spirit or ghost was their actual father. Krishna and Jesus were of royal descent. Both were visited at birth by wise men and shepherds, guided by a star. Angels in both cases issued a warning that the local dictator planned to kill the baby and had issued a decree for his assassination. The parents fled. Mary and Joseph stayed in Muturea; Krishna’s parents stayed in Mathura. Both Christ and Krishna withdrew to the wilderness as adults, and fasted. Both were identified as “the seed of the woman bruising the serpent’s head.” Jesus was called “the lion of the tribe of Judah.” Krishna was called “the lion of the tribe of Saki.” Both claimed: “I am the Resurrection.” Both were “without sin.” Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine. Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured “all manner of diseases.” Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead. Both selected disciples to spread his teachings. Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners. Both celebrated a last supper. Both forgave his enemies. Both were crucified and both were resurrected.
3. Odessei, Odysseus
Homeric tales about Odysseus emphasize his suffering life, just as in Mark Jesus said that he, too, would suffer greatly. Odysseus is a carpenter like Jesus, and he wants to return his home just as Jesus wants to be welcomed in his native home and later to God’s home in Jerusalem. Odysseus is plagued with unfaithful and dim-witted companions who display tragic flaws. They stupidly open a magic bag of wind while Odysseus sleeps and release terrible tempests which prevent their return home. These sailors are comparable to Jesus’ disciples, who disbelieve Jesus, ask foolish questions, and show general ignorance about everything. It’s amazing that either Odysseus or Jesus ever manage to accomplish anything, given the companions they have, but this simply demonstrates the power and ability of the one true leader who has a divine mandate to lead the people out of darkness and into a brighter future
4 Romulus
ulus is born of a vestal virgin, which was a priestess of the hearth god Vesta sworn to celibacy. His mother claims that the divine impregnated her, yet this is not believed by the King. Romulus and his twin brother, Remus, are tossed in the river and left for dead. (A “slaughter of the innocents” tale which parallels that of Matthew 2:13-16). Romulus is hailed as the son of god. He is “snatched away to heaven” by a whirlwind (It is assumed that the gods took him), and he makes post mortem appearances. In his work Numa Pompilius, Plutarch records that there was a darkness covering the earth before his death (Just as there was during Jesus’ death according to Mark 15:33). He also states that Romulus is to be know afterwards as ‘Quirinus’; A god which belonged to the Archiac Triad (a “triple deity” similar to the concept of the Trinity)
5. Dionysus was born of a virgin on December 25 and, as the Holy Child, was placed in a manger. He was a traveling teacher who performed miracles. He “rode in a triumphal procession on an ass.” He was a sacred king killed and eaten in an eucharistic ritual for fecundity and purification. Dionysus rose from the dead on March 25. He was the God of the Vine, and turned water into wine. He was called “King of Kings” and “God of Gods.” He was considered the “Only Begotten Son,” Savior,” “Redeemer,” “Sin Bearer,” Anointed One,” and the “Alpha and Omega.” He was identified with the Ram or Lamb. His sacrificial title of “Dendrites” or “Young Man of the Tree” intimates he was hung on a tree or crucified.
6.. Heracles is the Son of a god (Zeus). It is recorded that Zeus is both the father and great-great- great grandfather of Heracles, just as Jesus is essentially his own grandpa, being both “The root and offspring of David” (Revelation 22:16) as he is part of the triune God which is the father of Adam and eventually of Jesus. Both are doubly related to the Supreme God.Diodorus writes that,”For as regards the magnitude of the deeds which he accomplished it is generally agreed that Heracles has been handed down as one who surpassed all men of whom memory from the beginning of time has brought down an account; consequently it is a difficult attainment to report each one of his deeds in a worthy manner and to present a record which shall be on a level with labours so great, the magnitude of which won for him the prize of immortality.”Jesus is also said to have done a very large number of good works. John 21:25 says that: “Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.”Hera tries to kill Heracles as an infant by sending two serpents after him, yet Heracles survives by strangling them. This parallels Herod’s slaughter of the innocents in an attempt to kill Jesus (Matthew 2:13-16).Heracles makes a descent into Hades and returns from it with Theseus and Peirithoüs, just as Jesus descends into the “lower parts of the earth” or Hades (Ephesians 4:7-8); Though Jesus does not bring anyone up from it. Heracles’ body is not found and he is assumed to have been taken by the gods:”After this, when the companions of Iolaüs came to gather up the bones of Heracles and found not a single bone anywhere, they assumed that, in accordance with the words of the oracle, he had passed from among men into the company of the gods.”
Ok not sure why you are responding in two places simultaneously
I’ll repost evidence that Bible stories were taken from earlier civilizations :
Ipuwer Papyrus
Eridu Genesis, also known as the Sumerian Creation Myth
also recounts a version of a great flood, similar to the Noah's Ark story in the Bible, where the gods decide to destroy humanity with a flood but a pious individual, Ziusudra, is warned by Enki and survives.
- The Epic of Gilgamesh contains a flood story strikingly similar to the Noah's Ark narrative in Genesis. Both involve a divine warning, the construction of a large vessel to save humanity (or at least a select few), and a subsequent flood that destroys much of the world. -
-Other shared motifs include a character whose story mirrors the biblical account of the Garden of Eden (Gilgamesh's quest for immortality), a wrestling match with a divinely appointed assailant, and a lesson about the transient nature of life-
You’re the one spamming me in multiple threads. I’ll be responding here from now on.
So because both accounts involve a flood and a survivor, Genesis must be derivative.
So by that logic, any two stories with a flood, a chosen survivor, or divine involvement must be copies of one another? That’s textbook false equivalence and post hoc reasoning. Similarity does not imply dependence, that’s a remedial logical error. You have confused similarity with dependence and fallaciously assumed chronology equals causality (which I don’t concede that the Genesis tradition is younger than the Sumerian one).
Secondly, the flood narratives are nothing alike. In the Sumerian myth, the gods seek to destroy mankind because they're noisy; Enki acts behind the backs of the others like some petty bureaucrat. Nor is the Sumerian flood a worldwide flood, contextually it appears to be a local deluge. In contrast, Genesis presents a righteous God who judges wickedness, yet preserves mankind through covenant. The Biblical flood is moral, monotheistic, and theologically driven: the pagan one is chaotic, amoral, and arbitrary. This isn’t imitation — it’s a rebuttal.
Genesis doesn’t echo Babylon; it silences it.
As for the rest of your examples, they commit many of the same fallacies listed above. A lot of these claims are just entirely baseless: I’ve read these ancient Sumerian mythologies and they don’t say what Alexander Sitchin says they do. Saying Jesus is just another Heracles because both had divine fathers and faced danger as infants is peak parallelomania — you must ignore that Heracles is a mythic brute rewarded with godhood, while Jesus is a sinless Savior who conquered death to redeem humanity. Superficial echoes aren’t substance.
Zeitgeist lied to you man, Mithra wasn’t born of a virgin; unless you consider a rock to be a virgin that is.
You said that your Mayor was in the 32nd level, and still did not “know” what Freemasonry was really all about. You said that only those in the 33rd level were initiated in the religion. That very few ever get invited. Is it possible all these lower level freemasons(including celebrities) have no idea(even if they sport all the symbols)what they are involved in?
This wasn’t my video essay but Atilyan Childs, although I agree with him that most below the 32nd degree are ignorant of Masonry’s true god. Perhaps lower level celebrities don’t but pretty much any big name celeb knows what the deal is. Plenty of clips can be found of musicians and actors admitting to making their deal with devil.
Wow. Listened to the entirety of your video and you put so many loose ends together for me. I’m a born again Christian but I needed to learn more in depth about the enemy out to destroy us. I thank you for reminding me that I need to have the whole armor of Christ on me at all times.
I've seen this before, a while back. It seems more true and more relevant than before. However, his constant pleas for sharing and to keep listening are unsettling. But there's hours of accurate information here. And he does claim Jesus, which is nice. It was worth a second look. Thanks.
The assertion that the historical figure Jesus Christ is a myth is not just wrong — it’s entirely detached from reality.
To say there’s no record of Jesus before 300 AD, one must ignore a plethora of hard evidence. Tacitus names Him directly and places His execution under Pontius Pilate. Pliny the Younger describes Christians worshiping Him as a god. Suetonius mentions unrest over Christ in Rome. And Josephus, despite one debated passage, refers to Jesus twice — one being the well-accepted account referring to James, “the brother of Jesus who was called Christ.” And that’s just a few of the secular sources, we haven’t even gotten into the Christian ones.
Even outspoken atheist and critical scholars like Bart Ehrman, Maurice Casey, and Gerd Lüdemann affirm Jesus’ existence. They attack Christianity’s claims, but they don’t insult history.
You can believe Him to be a liar or a lunatic, but what He can’t be called is a myth.
Just came across your Substack. I subscribed immediately after reading your response here. I could read your logic all day in support of Christ. I could use a lot of help remembering and utilizing what I read so subscribing will do that for me. Thanks for the content.
Christianity on the timeline! - Our earliest accounts of Jesus’s resurrection were written 40 years after the event with the exception of Paul, who talks about the resurrection in Corinthians. Corinthians was written approximately 20 years after the event. In fact, according to scholars, there is literally no mention of Jesus’ miracles or his teachings until two decades after His death. This is a point used by those who condemn Christianity as nonsense and, although agreed that it is quite strange that such a long gap of nothingness exists, the even bigger problem is that it appears the method used to determine when these documents were authored was “carbon dating”.
In the case of “carbon dating”, which appears to be how the writings of “Paul” were determined to be so ancient, it may be erroneous. There have been instances where living samples, such as a freshly killed seal, were incorrectly dated to be over 10,000 years old. So, can we even say the writings attributed to Paul were created 20 years after Jesus died? Not with confidence. And if you read Edmond Bordeaux’s works or Hyam MacCoby’s The Mythmaker, these Paul-writings didn’t come about for far longer (centuries!). According to Edmond and many other scholars, although we are told Jesus died around 36 AD (the exact year is debated), the first time we can accurately put Christianity on the map as a religion is between the 2nd - 4th century. Although we start seeing movement around the year 200, we don’t see a lot of progress until the 300s. This happens to align with the beginning stages of the founding of what would become the Roman Catholic Church empire (aka my religion). But, alas, at this stage in time, we run into an issue with evidence; a great deal of (if not all of) the early documents, which are said to be the foundational works for the religion, have been proven to be forgeries.
I can provide mountains of evidence as to why nothing at all is written about mythical Jesus
but before I do I want to see evidence that you can provide - and do not use a man made text to provide evidence from man made text - get the idea?
I agree, carbon dating is unreliable. But it's also irrelevant. Paul’s letters aren't dated by carbon dating — they're dated through internal evidence, such as Gallio’s proconsulship, fixed by Roman inscription to 51 AD. We don’t have extant copies of Paul’s letters, so I’m not exactly sure how copies we don’t have are being tested. This places Paul’s writing within 20 years of the crucifixion, grounded in verifiable archaeological evidence.
But your self-refuting standard collapses before it touches the data. You demand evidence, then reject all “man-made” evidence — which, hilariously, disqualifies the very sources you cite. You invoke Maccoby and Bordeaux, both of whom are men writing texts. By what epistemic standard is their writing acceptable evidence but not the authors of the New Testament? If all written human testimony is invalid, then all history is unknowable — and your argument is dead on arrival. That’s not skepticism, it’s epistemic nihilism.
You also claim the early Christian documents are “proven forgeries,” but that’s just a bare assertion. You offer no epistemic criteria, no consistent method to determine what is false and what isn’t.
The scholars I cited disagree with yours, it seems scholarship isn’t this monolithic thing you can just magically claim affirms your beliefs. And even your own scholars disagree with you. Maccoby, for instance, accepts that Paul wrote in the first century — he simply interprets them differently. He doesn’t date them centuries later, that’s just factually incorrect. Bordeaux, on the other hand, provided alleged forgeries that no one else has ever verified. So your own sources either a) undermine your assertions or b) destroys your credibility as a serious judge of what constitutes proper “evidence”.
Christians are being jailed and executed in the late 1st and early 2nd century. You don’t get Roman governors, imperial correspondence, and hostile pagan polemics against a religion that supposedly didn’t exist. It’s honestly difficult to engage with some of these claims when they are so untethered from the historical evidence. Simply asserting the opinions of fringe scholars doesn’t make it so.
Nice try, but you can’t demand historical evidence while rejecting the very method by which history is known.
It is generous of you to reply to his assertions but it presents an opportunity to reinforce the truth of the Gospel. Every attempt to disparage the truth is an opportunity to expose the lies.
Honestly, he was a much better interlocutor than most of these types that waltz in here. Usually I'm just met with expletives after the first reply haha.
“Paul the Apostle” was not one of the disciples of them but now has that title. Saint Paul. Hmm But Paul never even met Jesus. Because he never met Jesus, his information, which accounts for half of the New Testament, comes from “revelations” (visions, dreams, spontaneous thoughts), previously written scripture, and “tradition” (meaning he guessed how it would have occurred based on traditions of the time). Paul appears to have also pulled details from Peter’s accounts however, Peter (and John) were likely illiterate according to Acts 4-13, therefore they did not personally pen anything. Like with everything in the Bible, scholars argue the true meaning of Acts 4-13 but, if instead of debating the words on paper, we look at what was happening in society at the time, being illiterate was very common as schooling was only available to elite classes of citizens. So unless these men were part of a higher class of citizens (which Paul was said to be intertwined with), they were likely all illiterate.
The next logical assumption would be, “they surely had scribes and they orally spoke the words and the scribe wrote it all down”, but if you look into history, this wasn’t a practice found in the Judea region and this wasn’t a practice used amongst the poor who couldn’t afford to hire schooled individuals to jot down their words.
To make the issue even more peculiar, there are no historical records of most of these men. Biblical scholars are torn on the existence of Paul. Although some scholars affirmatively state Paul existed, others, such as Edmond Bordeaux Székely, who invested 25 years into research, insists he did not (meaning he has found no legitimate records of a man named Paul who did what history now claims he did)
97% of the Bible is pure fabrication, and almost 95% of the Biblical stories is copied from Phoenician, Ugaritic, Syrian-Canaanite, Mesopotamian and Egyptian myths, poems, texts and stories, written centuries before the Bible was crafted.
is essentially a history book but with the concept of common laws woven into it. It's essentially Herodotus without polytheism, plus other social codes or norms... However, even Herodotus said he was obliged to write what was told to him, but not obliged to believe it was true. In the case of the Bible, it is written by people interpreting other people multiple times over, which is why no two copies of the original King James Bible are the same. Chunks of it were struck out intentionally, other parts lost... And it was woven back together into the version available today, by people who wanted other people to believe, behave and live certain things, certain ways... Let's not all pretend it is anything other than that.
What plethora ? Bible evidence ? You mean the forged evidence that range from writings intentionally attributed to people who did not write them, to edited writings, to intentionally backdated writings to give them the appearance of being substantially older than they actually were. A few examples of known counterfeit documents include:
The Gospel of Peter was authored 60-70 years after Peter died (if you trust the dating system)
Out of the 13 Letters by Paul, all but 7 have been deemed fake, the seven remaining have “unknown” authenticity.
The Apostolic Constitutions are also fraud and were written roughly 300 years after Apostles.
Even the supposed “Dead Sea Scrolls” were proven to be fake - but it took until 2020 for this to come to light.
And the original Bible also vanished so all we have now is copies of what we are told is the original Bible.
Your opinions don't merit a response. They are your own belly button feel backed up by nothing. Personally I wouldn't waste my time with facts and figures on you because your scatter brained points are backed up by nothing. Before I end wasting my time on you I want you to understand that unless you are a bot with a modicum of cheap programming bring something of substance or get lost.
Yeah I like how apologist Gavin Ortlund worded it, these Jesus deniers are typically "moody," bitter and unable to really explain the logic behind their theories. They have an allergy just to Jesus' name being mentioned.
Don't argue a fool in accordance with their foolishness, as the Bible says. I would tend to make the mistake of debating them, but do they ever actually listen to our points? Nope.
Provide evidence not loghorea or sanctimonious lectures from the man made book
No wonder everyone considers you lot - retarded!
Problem with you arrogant fools is that you think you know something that others do not therefore your haughty superiority complex becomes evident .
There are over 300 "Gods" being worshiped at any given period in history. The probability that only your's is the right one is pretty much non existent. The probability that they are all wrong however...is close to 100%
There is no "Word of God". There are words of men, claiming to be God's words.
If God is big enough to "speak" through anyone, he is big enough to speak TO anyone.
...And those points, are literally all moody assertions. Yes, indeed.
Yes, public school-educated (brainwashed) people, spiritually unhealthy, redditors, twitter, youtube, children, and internet pseudo-intellectuals alike do consider me retarded. Guess how smart people see them?
Answer my question above, if you please would. Forget my Biblical worldview for a moment - when I don't even know yours, lol. What do you believe?
97% of the Bible is pure fabrication, and almost 95% of the Biblical stories is copied from Phoenician, Ugaritic, Syrian-Canaanite, Mesopotamian and Egyptian myths, poems, texts and stories, written centuries before the Bible was crafted.
is essentially a history book but with the concept of common laws woven into it. It's essentially Herodotus without polytheism, plus other social codes or norms... However, even Herodotus said he was obliged to write what was told to him, but not obliged to believe it was true. In the case of the Bible, it is written by people interpreting other people multiple times over, which is why no two copies of the original King James Bible are the same. Chunks of it were struck out intentionally, other parts lost... And it was woven back together into the version available today, by people who wanted other people to believe, behave and live certain things, certain ways... Let's not all pretend it is anything other than that.
Every time I start presenting evidence they ask for . I get either ignored or banned or told, threats that I am going to hell😆 - my favorite , or better yet - “I ll pray for you” 🤣
It’s pretty impossible to have a discussion with a cult
I find that odd as well , paltering operative ! Saw this years ago - why would he be so intent on pushing Jesus - and why after breaking his oath is he still breathing
Great share. I first saw this video in 2021 and it was instrumental to my awakening and coming to Christ.
Great to hear Steph, this was an eye opener for me as well. A lot of things finally clicked into place after this one.
I’m sure you probably came across this guy but just in case you didn’t, look into ron wyatt, amazing work! Talk about life changing!! 😊
Yep. Once you pick up what he's laying down, every thing happening around us makes more sense.
And my ongoing interest in the topic (since my original viewing) has confirmed that he's right.
I always question as to why such things have such great reach, but when they tend to be one-offs, they seem to be more legit.
Icu have a psyop, troll... point is we follow Jesus/ God/TRUE WORD or not. "He who has the Son has life. He who doesn't doesnothavelife.(1JN5:12).
Not so according to thousands of NDE s so what your Proof? So 3/4 of the world is dead ! You can’t be this 🤡
Stop spamming the same comment over and over again or you will be banned.
I can’t respond on the banned commenters thread anymore, that is why I haven’t responded to your baseless assertions.
You have not responded to anything though - you wrote “cool story bro” 😂
Once more before I stop casting my pearls before swine:
Do you realize the difference between an assertion and evidence? Telling a story isn’t evidence.
This is an assertion: “The Bible is a forgery.”
Evidence for that assertion would be documents showing the before and after. All you have provided is your conjecture. This other atheist at least provided some scholarly sources, as pitiful as they were.
So, provide some actual manuscript evidence for your claims, not a bed time story.
Truth101 should be ignored because it does not back up anything in most of its utterances. It's time it gets cut loose. On the other hand there are people who have been awakened due to this scam and they are the collateral salvage. Probably few, As expected.
Also interesting commentary found here since I saw you bring up Pontius Pilate
Historical data and religious practices of ancient Jews completely contradicts most events written about Jesus’ crucifixion ,
https://www.bitchute.com/video/fsY2tAZKpFI2/
I have a lot more evidence but I don’t want to “spam”
Video won’t play but I assume it’s about Pontius Pilate not existing either. Only problem with that is now we have archeological evidence verifying he did govern Judea during the late 20’s and early 30’s AD:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilate_stone
7 Glycon
n the middle of the 100s AD, out along the south coast of the Black Sea, Glycon was the son of the God Apollo, who: came to Earth through a miraculous birth, was the Earthly manifestation of divinity, came to earth in fulfillment of divine prophecy, gave his chief believer the power of prophecy, gave believers the power to speak in tongues, performed miracles, healed the sick, and raised the dead
8. Zoroaster was born of a virgin and “immaculate conception by a ray of divine reason.” He was baptized in a river. In his youth he astounded wise men with his wisdom. He was tempted in the wilderness by the devil. He began his ministry at age 30. Zoroaster baptized with water, fire and “holy wind.” He cast out demons and restored the sight to a blind man. He taught about heaven and hell, and revealed mysteries, including resurrection, judgment, salvation and the apocalypse. He had a sacred cup or grail. He was slain. His religion had a eucharist. He was the “Word made flesh.” Zoroaster’s followers expected a “second coming” in the virgin-born Saoshynt or Savior, who is to come in 2341 AD and begin his ministry at age 30, ushering in a golden age.
9.Attis of Phrygia - was born on December 25 of the Virgin Nana. He was considered the savior who was slain for the salvation of mankind. His body as bread was eaten by his worshippers. He was both the Divine Son and the Father. On “Black Friday,” he was crucified on a tree, from which his holy blood ran down to redeem the earth. He descended into the underworld. After three days, Attis was resurrected
10. Horus - Born of a virgin, Isis. Only begotten son of the God Osiris. Birth heralded by the star Sirius, the morning star. Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (about DEC-21). In reality, he had no birth date; he was not a human. Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus’ mother “Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child.” An angel tells Jesus’ father to: “Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt.” Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. Age at baptism: 30. Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. Was crucifed, descended into Hell; resurrected after three days
Jesus figures predating Jesus (mimicking Jesus)
1. Buddha-
Buddha both went to their temples at the age of twelve, where they are said to have astonished all with their wisdom. Both supposedly fasted in solitude for a long time: Buddha for forty–seven days and Jesus for forty. Both wandered to a fig tree at the conclusion of their fasts. Both were about the same age when they began their public ministry:
“When he [Buddha] went again to the garden he saw a monk who was calm, tranquil, self–possessed, serene, and dignified. The prince, determined to become such a monk, was led to make the great renunciation. At the time he was twenty–nine years of age… “Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age.” (Luke 3:23). Both were tempted by the “devil” at the beginning of their ministry: To Buddha, he said: “Go not forth to adopt a religious life but return to your kingdom, and in seven days you shall become emperor of the world, riding over the four continents.” To Jesus, he said: “All these [kingdoms of the world] I will give you, if you fall down and worship me” (Matthew 4:9). Buddha answered the “devil”: “Get you away from me.”Jesus responded: “…begone, Satan!” (Matthew 4:10). Both strove to establish a kingdom of heaven on earth. According to the Somadeva (a Buddhist holy book), a Buddhist ascetic’s eye once offended him, so he plucked it out and cast it away. Jesus said: “If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out, and throw it away;.” (Matthew 5:29).
2. Krishna - Krishna
Radha Y Krishna according to to Bhagavata Purana some believe that Krishna was born without a sexual union, by “mental transmission” from the mind of Vasudeva into the womb of Devaki, his mother. Christ and Krishna were called both God and the Son of God. Both were sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man. Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity. Krishna’s adoptive human father was also a carpenter. A spirit or ghost was their actual father. Krishna and Jesus were of royal descent. Both were visited at birth by wise men and shepherds, guided by a star. Angels in both cases issued a warning that the local dictator planned to kill the baby and had issued a decree for his assassination. The parents fled. Mary and Joseph stayed in Muturea; Krishna’s parents stayed in Mathura. Both Christ and Krishna withdrew to the wilderness as adults, and fasted. Both were identified as “the seed of the woman bruising the serpent’s head.” Jesus was called “the lion of the tribe of Judah.” Krishna was called “the lion of the tribe of Saki.” Both claimed: “I am the Resurrection.” Both were “without sin.” Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine. Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured “all manner of diseases.” Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead. Both selected disciples to spread his teachings. Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners. Both celebrated a last supper. Both forgave his enemies. Both were crucified and both were resurrected.
3. Odessei, Odysseus
Homeric tales about Odysseus emphasize his suffering life, just as in Mark Jesus said that he, too, would suffer greatly. Odysseus is a carpenter like Jesus, and he wants to return his home just as Jesus wants to be welcomed in his native home and later to God’s home in Jerusalem. Odysseus is plagued with unfaithful and dim-witted companions who display tragic flaws. They stupidly open a magic bag of wind while Odysseus sleeps and release terrible tempests which prevent their return home. These sailors are comparable to Jesus’ disciples, who disbelieve Jesus, ask foolish questions, and show general ignorance about everything. It’s amazing that either Odysseus or Jesus ever manage to accomplish anything, given the companions they have, but this simply demonstrates the power and ability of the one true leader who has a divine mandate to lead the people out of darkness and into a brighter future
4 Romulus
ulus is born of a vestal virgin, which was a priestess of the hearth god Vesta sworn to celibacy. His mother claims that the divine impregnated her, yet this is not believed by the King. Romulus and his twin brother, Remus, are tossed in the river and left for dead. (A “slaughter of the innocents” tale which parallels that of Matthew 2:13-16). Romulus is hailed as the son of god. He is “snatched away to heaven” by a whirlwind (It is assumed that the gods took him), and he makes post mortem appearances. In his work Numa Pompilius, Plutarch records that there was a darkness covering the earth before his death (Just as there was during Jesus’ death according to Mark 15:33). He also states that Romulus is to be know afterwards as ‘Quirinus’; A god which belonged to the Archiac Triad (a “triple deity” similar to the concept of the Trinity)
5. Dionysus was born of a virgin on December 25 and, as the Holy Child, was placed in a manger. He was a traveling teacher who performed miracles. He “rode in a triumphal procession on an ass.” He was a sacred king killed and eaten in an eucharistic ritual for fecundity and purification. Dionysus rose from the dead on March 25. He was the God of the Vine, and turned water into wine. He was called “King of Kings” and “God of Gods.” He was considered the “Only Begotten Son,” Savior,” “Redeemer,” “Sin Bearer,” Anointed One,” and the “Alpha and Omega.” He was identified with the Ram or Lamb. His sacrificial title of “Dendrites” or “Young Man of the Tree” intimates he was hung on a tree or crucified.
6.. Heracles is the Son of a god (Zeus). It is recorded that Zeus is both the father and great-great- great grandfather of Heracles, just as Jesus is essentially his own grandpa, being both “The root and offspring of David” (Revelation 22:16) as he is part of the triune God which is the father of Adam and eventually of Jesus. Both are doubly related to the Supreme God.Diodorus writes that,”For as regards the magnitude of the deeds which he accomplished it is generally agreed that Heracles has been handed down as one who surpassed all men of whom memory from the beginning of time has brought down an account; consequently it is a difficult attainment to report each one of his deeds in a worthy manner and to present a record which shall be on a level with labours so great, the magnitude of which won for him the prize of immortality.”Jesus is also said to have done a very large number of good works. John 21:25 says that: “Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.”Hera tries to kill Heracles as an infant by sending two serpents after him, yet Heracles survives by strangling them. This parallels Herod’s slaughter of the innocents in an attempt to kill Jesus (Matthew 2:13-16).Heracles makes a descent into Hades and returns from it with Theseus and Peirithoüs, just as Jesus descends into the “lower parts of the earth” or Hades (Ephesians 4:7-8); Though Jesus does not bring anyone up from it. Heracles’ body is not found and he is assumed to have been taken by the gods:”After this, when the companions of Iolaüs came to gather up the bones of Heracles and found not a single bone anywhere, they assumed that, in accordance with the words of the oracle, he had passed from among men into the company of the gods.”
Ok not sure why you are responding in two places simultaneously
I’ll repost evidence that Bible stories were taken from earlier civilizations :
Ipuwer Papyrus
Eridu Genesis, also known as the Sumerian Creation Myth
also recounts a version of a great flood, similar to the Noah's Ark story in the Bible, where the gods decide to destroy humanity with a flood but a pious individual, Ziusudra, is warned by Enki and survives.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2019&version=NIV
mountain manifestation) parallels the manifestation of Baal
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Baal-ancient-deity
https://www.gotquestions.org/Ugaritic.html
- The Epic of Gilgamesh contains a flood story strikingly similar to the Noah's Ark narrative in Genesis. Both involve a divine warning, the construction of a large vessel to save humanity (or at least a select few), and a subsequent flood that destroys much of the world. -
-Other shared motifs include a character whose story mirrors the biblical account of the Garden of Eden (Gilgamesh's quest for immortality), a wrestling match with a divinely appointed assailant, and a lesson about the transient nature of life-
You’re the one spamming me in multiple threads. I’ll be responding here from now on.
So because both accounts involve a flood and a survivor, Genesis must be derivative.
So by that logic, any two stories with a flood, a chosen survivor, or divine involvement must be copies of one another? That’s textbook false equivalence and post hoc reasoning. Similarity does not imply dependence, that’s a remedial logical error. You have confused similarity with dependence and fallaciously assumed chronology equals causality (which I don’t concede that the Genesis tradition is younger than the Sumerian one).
Secondly, the flood narratives are nothing alike. In the Sumerian myth, the gods seek to destroy mankind because they're noisy; Enki acts behind the backs of the others like some petty bureaucrat. Nor is the Sumerian flood a worldwide flood, contextually it appears to be a local deluge. In contrast, Genesis presents a righteous God who judges wickedness, yet preserves mankind through covenant. The Biblical flood is moral, monotheistic, and theologically driven: the pagan one is chaotic, amoral, and arbitrary. This isn’t imitation — it’s a rebuttal.
Genesis doesn’t echo Babylon; it silences it.
As for the rest of your examples, they commit many of the same fallacies listed above. A lot of these claims are just entirely baseless: I’ve read these ancient Sumerian mythologies and they don’t say what Alexander Sitchin says they do. Saying Jesus is just another Heracles because both had divine fathers and faced danger as infants is peak parallelomania — you must ignore that Heracles is a mythic brute rewarded with godhood, while Jesus is a sinless Savior who conquered death to redeem humanity. Superficial echoes aren’t substance.
Zeitgeist lied to you man, Mithra wasn’t born of a virgin; unless you consider a rock to be a virgin that is.
I watched this whole thing years ago. God bless him.
Our United States currency has the Free Mason pyramid & evil eye on it.
The statue of 🗽 Liberty was given to us by FREE MASONS FROM FRANCE!
Lady Liberty is no Lady, that is a MAN! THE UNITED STATES IS A CORRUPT COUNTRY!
Five hours flew by.
You said that your Mayor was in the 32nd level, and still did not “know” what Freemasonry was really all about. You said that only those in the 33rd level were initiated in the religion. That very few ever get invited. Is it possible all these lower level freemasons(including celebrities) have no idea(even if they sport all the symbols)what they are involved in?
This wasn’t my video essay but Atilyan Childs, although I agree with him that most below the 32nd degree are ignorant of Masonry’s true god. Perhaps lower level celebrities don’t but pretty much any big name celeb knows what the deal is. Plenty of clips can be found of musicians and actors admitting to making their deal with devil.
Are all these celebrities being misled or part of the “real” freemasonry?
Wow. Listened to the entirety of your video and you put so many loose ends together for me. I’m a born again Christian but I needed to learn more in depth about the enemy out to destroy us. I thank you for reminding me that I need to have the whole armor of Christ on me at all times.
Mark Wahlberg is Catholic?????
Thank you for reposting this. I sincerely wish God would embrace each and every one of us in this way and many other ways. Whatever fits.
Nope. You're wrong. Again.
I've seen this before, a while back. It seems more true and more relevant than before. However, his constant pleas for sharing and to keep listening are unsettling. But there's hours of accurate information here. And he does claim Jesus, which is nice. It was worth a second look. Thanks.
Jesus never existed
There’s no record of any Jesus until 300 years after his so called resurrection
This is all man made myths
So I believe this guy but I also think he is paltering
The assertion that the historical figure Jesus Christ is a myth is not just wrong — it’s entirely detached from reality.
To say there’s no record of Jesus before 300 AD, one must ignore a plethora of hard evidence. Tacitus names Him directly and places His execution under Pontius Pilate. Pliny the Younger describes Christians worshiping Him as a god. Suetonius mentions unrest over Christ in Rome. And Josephus, despite one debated passage, refers to Jesus twice — one being the well-accepted account referring to James, “the brother of Jesus who was called Christ.” And that’s just a few of the secular sources, we haven’t even gotten into the Christian ones.
Even outspoken atheist and critical scholars like Bart Ehrman, Maurice Casey, and Gerd Lüdemann affirm Jesus’ existence. They attack Christianity’s claims, but they don’t insult history.
You can believe Him to be a liar or a lunatic, but what He can’t be called is a myth.
Just came across your Substack. I subscribed immediately after reading your response here. I could read your logic all day in support of Christ. I could use a lot of help remembering and utilizing what I read so subscribing will do that for me. Thanks for the content.
Christianity on the timeline! - Our earliest accounts of Jesus’s resurrection were written 40 years after the event with the exception of Paul, who talks about the resurrection in Corinthians. Corinthians was written approximately 20 years after the event. In fact, according to scholars, there is literally no mention of Jesus’ miracles or his teachings until two decades after His death. This is a point used by those who condemn Christianity as nonsense and, although agreed that it is quite strange that such a long gap of nothingness exists, the even bigger problem is that it appears the method used to determine when these documents were authored was “carbon dating”.
In the case of “carbon dating”, which appears to be how the writings of “Paul” were determined to be so ancient, it may be erroneous. There have been instances where living samples, such as a freshly killed seal, were incorrectly dated to be over 10,000 years old. So, can we even say the writings attributed to Paul were created 20 years after Jesus died? Not with confidence. And if you read Edmond Bordeaux’s works or Hyam MacCoby’s The Mythmaker, these Paul-writings didn’t come about for far longer (centuries!). According to Edmond and many other scholars, although we are told Jesus died around 36 AD (the exact year is debated), the first time we can accurately put Christianity on the map as a religion is between the 2nd - 4th century. Although we start seeing movement around the year 200, we don’t see a lot of progress until the 300s. This happens to align with the beginning stages of the founding of what would become the Roman Catholic Church empire (aka my religion). But, alas, at this stage in time, we run into an issue with evidence; a great deal of (if not all of) the early documents, which are said to be the foundational works for the religion, have been proven to be forgeries.
I can provide mountains of evidence as to why nothing at all is written about mythical Jesus
but before I do I want to see evidence that you can provide - and do not use a man made text to provide evidence from man made text - get the idea?
I agree, carbon dating is unreliable. But it's also irrelevant. Paul’s letters aren't dated by carbon dating — they're dated through internal evidence, such as Gallio’s proconsulship, fixed by Roman inscription to 51 AD. We don’t have extant copies of Paul’s letters, so I’m not exactly sure how copies we don’t have are being tested. This places Paul’s writing within 20 years of the crucifixion, grounded in verifiable archaeological evidence.
But your self-refuting standard collapses before it touches the data. You demand evidence, then reject all “man-made” evidence — which, hilariously, disqualifies the very sources you cite. You invoke Maccoby and Bordeaux, both of whom are men writing texts. By what epistemic standard is their writing acceptable evidence but not the authors of the New Testament? If all written human testimony is invalid, then all history is unknowable — and your argument is dead on arrival. That’s not skepticism, it’s epistemic nihilism.
You also claim the early Christian documents are “proven forgeries,” but that’s just a bare assertion. You offer no epistemic criteria, no consistent method to determine what is false and what isn’t.
The scholars I cited disagree with yours, it seems scholarship isn’t this monolithic thing you can just magically claim affirms your beliefs. And even your own scholars disagree with you. Maccoby, for instance, accepts that Paul wrote in the first century — he simply interprets them differently. He doesn’t date them centuries later, that’s just factually incorrect. Bordeaux, on the other hand, provided alleged forgeries that no one else has ever verified. So your own sources either a) undermine your assertions or b) destroys your credibility as a serious judge of what constitutes proper “evidence”.
Christians are being jailed and executed in the late 1st and early 2nd century. You don’t get Roman governors, imperial correspondence, and hostile pagan polemics against a religion that supposedly didn’t exist. It’s honestly difficult to engage with some of these claims when they are so untethered from the historical evidence. Simply asserting the opinions of fringe scholars doesn’t make it so.
Nice try, but you can’t demand historical evidence while rejecting the very method by which history is known.
It is generous of you to reply to his assertions but it presents an opportunity to reinforce the truth of the Gospel. Every attempt to disparage the truth is an opportunity to expose the lies.
Honestly, he was a much better interlocutor than most of these types that waltz in here. Usually I'm just met with expletives after the first reply haha.
LOL... excellent.
Oh is that what you think sanctimoniously arrogant jester ?
Post proof - still waiting !
Again man made text from the Bible is not evidence e of anything
I’m cool with disagreement but not verbal abuse. Go get attention somewhere else demon.
Learn to control yourself. I’m sure it’s embarrassing when your own argument blows up in your face.
“Paul the Apostle” was not one of the disciples of them but now has that title. Saint Paul. Hmm But Paul never even met Jesus. Because he never met Jesus, his information, which accounts for half of the New Testament, comes from “revelations” (visions, dreams, spontaneous thoughts), previously written scripture, and “tradition” (meaning he guessed how it would have occurred based on traditions of the time). Paul appears to have also pulled details from Peter’s accounts however, Peter (and John) were likely illiterate according to Acts 4-13, therefore they did not personally pen anything. Like with everything in the Bible, scholars argue the true meaning of Acts 4-13 but, if instead of debating the words on paper, we look at what was happening in society at the time, being illiterate was very common as schooling was only available to elite classes of citizens. So unless these men were part of a higher class of citizens (which Paul was said to be intertwined with), they were likely all illiterate.
The next logical assumption would be, “they surely had scribes and they orally spoke the words and the scribe wrote it all down”, but if you look into history, this wasn’t a practice found in the Judea region and this wasn’t a practice used amongst the poor who couldn’t afford to hire schooled individuals to jot down their words.
To make the issue even more peculiar, there are no historical records of most of these men. Biblical scholars are torn on the existence of Paul. Although some scholars affirmatively state Paul existed, others, such as Edmond Bordeaux Székely, who invested 25 years into research, insists he did not (meaning he has found no legitimate records of a man named Paul who did what history now claims he did)
Thought provoking
https://solarmythology.com
97% of the Bible is pure fabrication, and almost 95% of the Biblical stories is copied from Phoenician, Ugaritic, Syrian-Canaanite, Mesopotamian and Egyptian myths, poems, texts and stories, written centuries before the Bible was crafted.
is essentially a history book but with the concept of common laws woven into it. It's essentially Herodotus without polytheism, plus other social codes or norms... However, even Herodotus said he was obliged to write what was told to him, but not obliged to believe it was true. In the case of the Bible, it is written by people interpreting other people multiple times over, which is why no two copies of the original King James Bible are the same. Chunks of it were struck out intentionally, other parts lost... And it was woven back together into the version available today, by people who wanted other people to believe, behave and live certain things, certain ways... Let's not all pretend it is anything other than that.
What plethora ? Bible evidence ? You mean the forged evidence that range from writings intentionally attributed to people who did not write them, to edited writings, to intentionally backdated writings to give them the appearance of being substantially older than they actually were. A few examples of known counterfeit documents include:
The Gospel of Peter was authored 60-70 years after Peter died (if you trust the dating system)
Out of the 13 Letters by Paul, all but 7 have been deemed fake, the seven remaining have “unknown” authenticity.
The Apostolic Constitutions are also fraud and were written roughly 300 years after Apostles.
Even the supposed “Dead Sea Scrolls” were proven to be fake - but it took until 2020 for this to come to light.
And the original Bible also vanished so all we have now is copies of what we are told is the original Bible.
Your opinions don't merit a response. They are your own belly button feel backed up by nothing. Personally I wouldn't waste my time with facts and figures on you because your scatter brained points are backed up by nothing. Before I end wasting my time on you I want you to understand that unless you are a bot with a modicum of cheap programming bring something of substance or get lost.
Yeah I like how apologist Gavin Ortlund worded it, these Jesus deniers are typically "moody," bitter and unable to really explain the logic behind their theories. They have an allergy just to Jesus' name being mentioned.
Don't argue a fool in accordance with their foolishness, as the Bible says. I would tend to make the mistake of debating them, but do they ever actually listen to our points? Nope.
Moody?
Provide evidence not loghorea or sanctimonious lectures from the man made book
No wonder everyone considers you lot - retarded!
Problem with you arrogant fools is that you think you know something that others do not therefore your haughty superiority complex becomes evident .
There are over 300 "Gods" being worshiped at any given period in history. The probability that only your's is the right one is pretty much non existent. The probability that they are all wrong however...is close to 100%
There is no "Word of God". There are words of men, claiming to be God's words.
If God is big enough to "speak" through anyone, he is big enough to speak TO anyone.
...And those points, are literally all moody assertions. Yes, indeed.
Yes, public school-educated (brainwashed) people, spiritually unhealthy, redditors, twitter, youtube, children, and internet pseudo-intellectuals alike do consider me retarded. Guess how smart people see them?
Answer my question above, if you please would. Forget my Biblical worldview for a moment - when I don't even know yours, lol. What do you believe?
You would bother with facts or figures because your completely all encompassing brainwashing from birth has predetermined your narrow minded existence
Are you still here?
We're narrowminded, lol? Mind sharing how you think we got here and what this place is and what runs it?
Then, I'll go from there. If you don't know, great - just give it your best guess.
Interesting , his opinions don’t merit a response
And those I posted are just ignored
97% of the Bible is pure fabrication, and almost 95% of the Biblical stories is copied from Phoenician, Ugaritic, Syrian-Canaanite, Mesopotamian and Egyptian myths, poems, texts and stories, written centuries before the Bible was crafted.
is essentially a history book but with the concept of common laws woven into it. It's essentially Herodotus without polytheism, plus other social codes or norms... However, even Herodotus said he was obliged to write what was told to him, but not obliged to believe it was true. In the case of the Bible, it is written by people interpreting other people multiple times over, which is why no two copies of the original King James Bible are the same. Chunks of it were struck out intentionally, other parts lost... And it was woven back together into the version available today, by people who wanted other people to believe, behave and live certain things, certain ways... Let's not all pretend it is anything other than that.
Every time I start presenting evidence they ask for . I get either ignored or banned or told, threats that I am going to hell😆 - my favorite , or better yet - “I ll pray for you” 🤣
It’s pretty impossible to have a discussion with a cult
I find that odd as well , paltering operative ! Saw this years ago - why would he be so intent on pushing Jesus - and why after breaking his oath is he still breathing
How do you know he's still breathing?
Easy - you can get a hold of him
No obituaries
No one discussing his “disappearance”
Did you actually do the homework? What's his favorite color? Why don't you go talk to him?
Why is there so much crackpottery in my feed?
Is it in this video that he speaks of the 7 Noahide laws?
The Source runs the universe.