This is the one that people need to share with those who are just being introduced to biblical cosmology. This is so well put together and organized super packed but easy to digest. I truly believe this is to share with people who are seeking this out for the first time or individuals who are on the fence. Much to my brother Scipio from his brothers Firmamental. 🤜💥🤛
Excellent commentary. I've noticed the subject of flat earth has come up in recent months alot. I've listened to other commentaries, and it doesn't seem to me to be so important that I spend much time pondering the question. It appears more like a distraction to me, and I would say others as well, and it seems like satan would like nothing else than to distract Gods children from the simplicity of His Word. Such as spending time splitting hairs as to whether the earth is flat or not. In reality there is no mixture or leaven in Gods Word. His Word is Truth, perfect and beautiful in every sense. It is His Story, a Love letter to us, a blueprint on how to live out our lives as His Creation on this Earth. I don't read anywhere in Scripture that Jesus sat around discussing with His disciples or the Pharisees and Saducees whether there was a flat earth or not. He came for a purpose, to fulfill the Will of His Father, to glorify His Father. To set things straight. To reveal that He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and give His life as ranson for our sins. So, to me as far as our eternal Salvation is concerned, the subject of flat earth is not a relevant matter. It's a subject that causes division, and satan loves that. Just like the rapture. It is not relevant to our eternal Salvation. That too causes division among the Body of Bellevers. We are in a spiritual battle and need to be united and knitted together with Love for one another, and not give heed to vain philosophies, controversies and end endless geneologies, (Titus 3:9, 1 Timothy 1:4). That's it.....Nice conclusion Scipio. Thank you.
““Whither is God?” he cried. “I shall tell you. We have killed him — you and I. All of us are his murderers. But what did we do when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving now? Away from all sides? Are we not plunging continually backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there an up or down left? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night and more night coming on all the time?””
- The Parable of the Madman
Neitzsche, The Godfather of atheism, realized the magnitude of what heliocentrism did to man’s belief in God. If you doubt the damage it has done to the Church, just look around you.
“Ye, did God say?” is a tried and true tactic that the deceiver has deployed to shake our faith since the very beginning of creation. Heliocentrism is perhaps his most potent weapon in his arsenal of disbelief.
Is it a salvation issue? Obviously not. But I disagree that it’s unimportant. It’s the primary method through which all subsequent apostasies have flowed. We don’t get evolution, we don’t get billions of years, we don’t get the Big Bang, we don’t get chaos theory without heliocentrism.
If we can not take God at His word from Genesis 1:1, that necessarily and purposely sows seeds of doubt. Heliocentrism and its intellectual offspring have led countless souls straight to hell.
If that is not a matter of the utmost importance, I don’t know what is.
“ 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:”
Ephesians 4:11-13
The Gospel is of the utmost importance, on that there can be no disagreement, but it is not the sole object of ministry.
I used to have a refractor telescope back in the 1980s. I looked at the Sun, the moon, Venus, Mars, Saturn, and Jupiter through the scope often. I struggle greatly NOT conceiving of these apparent bodies as globes/balls. The moon through the scope especially appeared to me as a pock-marked ball of rock. If these perceptions are false—and now I certainly wonder if they are—I pray to God and Jesus for wisdom and discernment. For I as much as anyone is vulnerable to being manipulated by Enlightenment mythology, and it’s unclear to me still what cosmology best describes our world and universe, as it were.
The planets certainly appear that way to me as well, but the shape of the celestial bodies doesn’t necessarily equate to the shape of Earth, although it is a logical assumption. Spheres or not, it’s kind of like looking at the ceiling in order to determine what the floor looks like.
Stop! From Clif High’s Hated ChatGPT which apparently is to prone to error as to make it unuseable: “Some geometric shapes are inherently stable due to their symmetrical and balanced nature. For example, a sphere is considered one of the most stable geometric forms because it distributes its mass uniformly in all directions, making it resistant to external forces.” The earth is not flat. Trust your eyes not your propaganda receptors.
This is the one that people need to share with those who are just being introduced to biblical cosmology. This is so well put together and organized super packed but easy to digest. I truly believe this is to share with people who are seeking this out for the first time or individuals who are on the fence. Much to my brother Scipio from his brothers Firmamental. 🤜💥🤛
I’ve just recently been exposed to the subject of Flat Earth. After studying it, I find it filled with credible evidence.
And the fact the Word of God references this matter repeatedly is proof to my mind.
The truth does indeed make you free.
Excellent commentary. I've noticed the subject of flat earth has come up in recent months alot. I've listened to other commentaries, and it doesn't seem to me to be so important that I spend much time pondering the question. It appears more like a distraction to me, and I would say others as well, and it seems like satan would like nothing else than to distract Gods children from the simplicity of His Word. Such as spending time splitting hairs as to whether the earth is flat or not. In reality there is no mixture or leaven in Gods Word. His Word is Truth, perfect and beautiful in every sense. It is His Story, a Love letter to us, a blueprint on how to live out our lives as His Creation on this Earth. I don't read anywhere in Scripture that Jesus sat around discussing with His disciples or the Pharisees and Saducees whether there was a flat earth or not. He came for a purpose, to fulfill the Will of His Father, to glorify His Father. To set things straight. To reveal that He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and give His life as ranson for our sins. So, to me as far as our eternal Salvation is concerned, the subject of flat earth is not a relevant matter. It's a subject that causes division, and satan loves that. Just like the rapture. It is not relevant to our eternal Salvation. That too causes division among the Body of Bellevers. We are in a spiritual battle and need to be united and knitted together with Love for one another, and not give heed to vain philosophies, controversies and end endless geneologies, (Titus 3:9, 1 Timothy 1:4). That's it.....Nice conclusion Scipio. Thank you.
““Whither is God?” he cried. “I shall tell you. We have killed him — you and I. All of us are his murderers. But what did we do when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving now? Away from all sides? Are we not plunging continually backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there an up or down left? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night and more night coming on all the time?””
- The Parable of the Madman
Neitzsche, The Godfather of atheism, realized the magnitude of what heliocentrism did to man’s belief in God. If you doubt the damage it has done to the Church, just look around you.
“Ye, did God say?” is a tried and true tactic that the deceiver has deployed to shake our faith since the very beginning of creation. Heliocentrism is perhaps his most potent weapon in his arsenal of disbelief.
Is it a salvation issue? Obviously not. But I disagree that it’s unimportant. It’s the primary method through which all subsequent apostasies have flowed. We don’t get evolution, we don’t get billions of years, we don’t get the Big Bang, we don’t get chaos theory without heliocentrism.
If we can not take God at His word from Genesis 1:1, that necessarily and purposely sows seeds of doubt. Heliocentrism and its intellectual offspring have led countless souls straight to hell.
If that is not a matter of the utmost importance, I don’t know what is.
“ 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:”
Ephesians 4:11-13
The Gospel is of the utmost importance, on that there can be no disagreement, but it is not the sole object of ministry.
God Bless sister.
Simply brilliant my beloved brother in Christ. Thank you for your response. God bless.
Well done!
Thanks brother 🙏
I’m about to dig in like a badger ! 🦡
Thanks for that excellent presentation.
I used to have a refractor telescope back in the 1980s. I looked at the Sun, the moon, Venus, Mars, Saturn, and Jupiter through the scope often. I struggle greatly NOT conceiving of these apparent bodies as globes/balls. The moon through the scope especially appeared to me as a pock-marked ball of rock. If these perceptions are false—and now I certainly wonder if they are—I pray to God and Jesus for wisdom and discernment. For I as much as anyone is vulnerable to being manipulated by Enlightenment mythology, and it’s unclear to me still what cosmology best describes our world and universe, as it were.
The planets certainly appear that way to me as well, but the shape of the celestial bodies doesn’t necessarily equate to the shape of Earth, although it is a logical assumption. Spheres or not, it’s kind of like looking at the ceiling in order to determine what the floor looks like.
True. Very true. Thanks for pointing that out.
Stop! From Clif High’s Hated ChatGPT which apparently is to prone to error as to make it unuseable: “Some geometric shapes are inherently stable due to their symmetrical and balanced nature. For example, a sphere is considered one of the most stable geometric forms because it distributes its mass uniformly in all directions, making it resistant to external forces.” The earth is not flat. Trust your eyes not your propaganda receptors.
I am trusting my eyes. We see way too far, and no refraction does not explain 1500 ft of missing curve.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YsSanuUNygI